OCD and Anger

#15

Postby Roady » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:29 am

collard98x wrote:Look, I know that I shouldn't have blown up like that. It more easier to do so to a faceless stranger than in person.


Collard, I am glad that you are admitting that you made a mistake.
But the fact that you are hidden behind your screen, doesn't mean that the people here are "just faceless strangers"
Come on, we are all human beings, with a life, with feelings, with heart for people like you. People who are feeling happy when they are trying to help another who are in some big troubes, like you. People who spend half an hour to create such a reply, hoping, maybe praying that the answer will land in the heart, doing some good there.
Yes, people who knows how hard life can be, and knows there is a way out of deep sh#t. These people you are calling "faceless strangers".

The only one here who is a faceless stranger ........ is you.

Realising that, you really, REALLY hurt people here when you was blowing up in a drunk state of mind, I truly hope you realize that.

Oh Collard, you have a huge long way to go. Do you know why?
The least (smallest) thing you could do here is just say you are sorry for the hard, damaging and very disrespectful words you wrote down here.
You could just humbling yourself a bit. But no.
What I see is that you try to keep your face high and proud, just search for another escape.

Plus its was 2 am here, I was a little more than drunk (which just seems to heighten my anger issues), and you can't delete posts here.

Well, at least you are honest now.
But of course that's no excuse to attack somebody like you did isnt' it?

I think I've gotten enough help here.
I'm trying to see a anger management councilor that a friend has recommended. I've had several good discussions here. Since I can't delete my account, just leave this thread dead.


Well some people are listening to you and try to give you some advice. But actually you won't to be honest here right?
I asked you a couple of questions. You are just ignoring them.

I know why you want to delete your account.
You feel lot of shame about what you are sharing here. But every word you speak or write down, you put in "the big system of life". Every word will have its effect, the good or the bad. There is much power in words you know?
The only way to make them ineffective is to humble yourself.
The key in here is forgiveness. If you don't admit your mistakes and ask for forgiveness, your mistake won't be forgiven. And if you are not forgiven, you have build a bit further on the prison you are living in.
As a Christian, the word "forgiveness" must say something to you I guess?
As well as "confessing your sins". Right?

So you may want this topic dead, the words you spoke won't die. You are just escaping from taking your responsibility.

I wish you all the best Collard.
And if you are drunk the next time, you better think about your Christian values, in stead of writing things you will feel sorry about later.

And the last thing I would advice you:
Stop watching porn. The more porn you watch, the more anger you will develop.
That will be the hardest thing to grow out for you.
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Postby collard98x » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:12 am

Leo Volont wrote:I hope Collard's Councilor has a Magic Wand... the Big Deluxe Version.


wow...I come for help to prevent myself from snapping someone's f***ing neck and that equals being a drama queen?

you really are a piece of sh** aren't you?
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#17

Postby Leo Volont » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:38 am

collard98x wrote:
Leo Volont wrote:I hope Collard's Councilor has a Magic Wand... the Big Deluxe Version.


wow...I come for help to prevent myself from snapping someone's f***ing neck and that equals being a drama queen?

you really are a piece of sh** aren't you?


Dear Collard,

Oh! I am so terribly sorry... but you said you were leaving, and I wished to share with the other members my true opinion of your future prospects in regards to Anger Management, and I thought the Magic Wand way of saying it was cute. Now, you aren't telling me that I was wrong, are you?

You see, you blew off all of us here, and while you said you listened to certain things we had to say, it seems you have implemented none of it. Then we find out that you are a Drinking Man also.... well, that Should Help, shouldn't it? But NOW you seem to rest all your Hopes on a Councilor. Well, why should you do any better for Him then you did for us? you found plenty of reason to ignore us, and to be lazy about not doing a thing we suggested and just drifting along and doing nothing about your Anger ... except of course for your splendidly original Idea that getting drunk might help. Well, it just seems a Safe Bet that the Councilor will bounce off of you just like everything else has.... unless, of course, he has a Super Deluxe Industrial Strength Magic Wand.

Oh, dear me, I hope this doesn't make you Angry.
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Postby Roady » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:44 pm

collard98x wrote:
Leo Volont wrote:I hope Collard's Councilor has a Magic Wand... the Big Deluxe Version.


wow...I come for help to prevent myself from snapping someone's f***ing neck and that equals being a drama queen?

you really are a piece of sh** aren't you?


Take care Collard.
Take some time to think about what we try to tell you.
I understand why you are reacting so defensive, it's just because lots of other pain that's inside of you.

Please take care of yourself.
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Postby quietvoice » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:37 pm

Roady wrote:Realising that, you really, REALLY hurt people here when you was blowing up in a drunk state of mind, I truly hope you realize that.

Really, reading words on a computer screen hurts? Or is it the meaning you are giving the words? If that is so, then it is you who is hurting you, not the poster.
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Postby Leo Volont » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:30 am

quietvoice wrote:
Roady wrote:Realising that, you really, REALLY hurt people here when you was blowing up in a drunk state of mind, I truly hope you realize that.

Really, reading words on a computer screen hurts? Or is it the meaning you are giving the words? If that is so, then it is you who is hurting you, not the poster.


Hi Quietvoice,

It is always so nice to hear from you.

Yeah, I know what you mean here. Let's say one of the Posters really cusses me out and asserts that I am doing a really lousy job of helping people, well, I read it with relative calm, since it doesn't seem to touch me anywhere, that is, I feel that the Poster who is berating me is mistaken about me... wrong about me like being wrong about a lot of other things. So it doesn't ruffle me. But the Reactions of a Poster might be quite different if, for instance, there is a Poster who is just "going with the flow" of Being Angry, who takes no personal responsibility for it but expects Somebody Else to Fix Him, but who deep inside feels guilty and ashamed of himself for being so Slack, Uncaring and Fatalistic, and THEN I come along and tell him he is just going with the flow of being angry, that he takes no responsibility for himself, that he expects someone else to fix his problems for him and his contribution to the Page is just to tell us how much worse he is getting from all of his doing nothing about it... Well, it would seem I am Telling Him exactly What his Conscience is trying to Tell Him. and just as he Gets Drunk, or something, to suppress and shut down his Conscience, he cusses at and berates me, hoping to quiet me down too, or to discredit my Message, in his own Surface Mind, the Message that I am Echoing from deep within himself. but, nah!... I'm getting way too Metaphysical. It is probably easier just to say that if a poster is Sensitive about something, then they must have Something to be Sensitive about it. Touching a Sore Spot. and as Shakespeare said, it's suspicious when somebody protests too much.
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Postby Roady » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:16 pm

quietvoice wrote:
Roady wrote:Realising that, you really, REALLY hurt people here when you was blowing up in a drunk state of mind, I truly hope you realize that.

Really, reading words on a computer screen hurts? Or is it the meaning you are giving the words? If that is so, then it is you who is hurting you, not the poster.


Actually it doesnt' matter at all.
All I was try to do, is to make Collard some more conscious about the effect words can have.
Even if these words are spoken by a digital media.
If somebody sees how words can hurt other, maybe the link will be made to their own pain (caused by words.....?)
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Postby quietvoice » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:15 pm

Roady wrote:If somebody sees how words can hurt other, maybe the link will be made to their own pain (caused by words.....?)

Words can only hurt if the hearer of the words has thoughts that those words hurt. We give meaning to what happens around us. What we think, we then emote. Thinking and feeling are two sides of the same coin. We experience our thinking by way of living the emotions that are linked to the thinking episode. Allow your thoughts to change, and then your experience changes.

That being said, yes, most people around are seemingly unaware of how their experience is made up of "thinking stuff." A "nice" person would allow for that in their communications so as to not "hurt another's feelings."
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Postby quietvoice » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:19 pm

Leo Volont wrote:Hi Quietvoice,
It is always so nice to hear from you.

Why, thank you, Leo. I enjoy reading your posts.
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Postby Roady » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:07 pm

quietvoice wrote:
Roady wrote:If somebody sees how words can hurt other, maybe the link will be made to their own pain (caused by words.....?)

Words can only hurt if the hearer of the words has thoughts that those words hurt. We give meaning to what happens around us. What we think, we then emote. Thinking and feeling are two sides of the same coin. We experience our thinking by way of living the emotions that are linked to the thinking episode. Allow your thoughts to change, and then your experience changes.

That being said, yes, most people around are seemingly unaware of how their experience is made up of "thinking stuff." A "nice" person would allow for that in their communications so as to not "hurt another's feelings."


Well great.
Please explain to Collard how he can rid of his anger using your method.
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Postby quietvoice » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:06 pm

Roady wrote:Please explain to Collard how he can rid of his anger using your method.

I have no method. This is simply an understanding of our psychological reality. Consciousness of thought/feeling is what makes our psychological experience. You could look into the "3 principles" of Mind, Consciousness, Thought by searching for it on the internet, where there's a growing list of teachers to be found.
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#26

Postby Leo Volont » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:49 am

Hi Everybody,

I think I mentioned it to Collard when he first started writing in some time ago, that his problem may be 'organic' -- that his Bio-Neuro-Chemistry may be 'out of whack', to use the Medical Term, and therefore the only viable solution for him would be to go on Meds. Because he seems to have only gotten worse, and that has been since everybody has been trying to help him with so many "explanations", well, it kind of verifies or strengthens the suspicion that only Meds would do him any good.

Indeed, this may be the case for many young people in Present Day Society, as, you see, we are NOW about a Generation since the time when Cocaine was so popular, and Studies have shown that cocaine was really Screwing Up Fetuses , to use the Medical Term, causing Bio-Neuro-Chemical Imbalances. Society Reaps what it Sows and so now all those Screwed Up Babies are become Screwed Up Adults. Talking Sense to them might not be any help.
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