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Hmmm it doesn't change my point of view actually. Can you point to some sentences in your articles that prove that I am wrong? I bet you don't even read them yourself. Your articles doesn't prove anything Richard. They only show the result of some research. Do you have more to read? Actually the mor...

I see two addicted people in your text.

You husband, who is an addicted smoker.
But you are addicted as well to the fact that he smokes.

First heal yourself. Maybe your husband will follow your good example.

I got it Richard.
Thanks.

I have already shared information that is not what I believe. You could also share information, you could also contribute to the discussion something other than your belief, but up to this point you have not. Why in the world should I post here things I don't believe myself? If I have nothing to do...

that my personal experiences being around, exposed to and involved in various aspects of fetishism are more than adequate to form a personal belief about fetishes, same as you have developed a personal belief . Whatever we will share here, it would stay a discussion between what I belief and what y...

What I meant to say was based on some earlier words that my personal experiences being around, exposed to and involved in various aspects of fetishism are more than adequate to form a personal belief about fetishes, same as you have developed a personal belief . Whatever we will share here, it would...

Never mind Richard,
As it is just my belief against yours, we can discuss 10 pages further turning around in some nice circles and talking along each other while the OP has just become silent. I have nothing to add.
So I leave this topic for what it is.

First I don't play games here. Second, you don't give me an answer on your claim giving some "empirical evidence". You just ignored it. Third: do you really think I have time to read all the references mentioned in your article? You want to use the knowledge of others to build your speech....

Tell me please: How many fetishists do you have met the last months yourself ? How many hours did you spend talking with them trying to understand how they think, what they believe, what background they have and why they are acting out their fetishes? How many investigation did you have done on this...

I researched a lot So you did study the bible yourself? That may be a good starting point, proving that that priest wasn't telling you the truth. Can you tell the truth about God, according to the bible itself? Do you somewhere read that you only can "be forgiven" by doing or not doing th...

Empirical evidence you say? Evidence based on a very accurate observation? You base your evidence only on what you see? Then tell me please: How many fetishists do you have met the last months? How many hours did you spend talking with them trying to understand how they think, what they believe, wha...

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:even for you it is not true, though you want it to be true.

No Richard, you don't want it to be true.
That's the truth in here.

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:You made a definitive claim of truth, that all fetishists have an inner pain/problem and are addicted. I claim you are wrong.

Every fetishist is addicted. They all are slaves.
Yes, that's what I am believing as truth indeed.

Creatiive wrote:Its like I'm having an identity crises -_-.

Why do you think you have?
Can you tell more about it?

And I'm not saying there are not people that fit Roady's profile of a fetishist. IMO the reason Roady holds such a strong belief that a person with a fetish must have an inner problem and be addicted is because that is Roady's personal experience . Well Richard, that's exactly what I have told here...