by lp_ultra » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:29 pm
ill_i_bus, waking life,
Time for a bit of controversy. Firstly ill_i_bus, a couple of comments from you:
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YOU SAID:
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actually, we do have cannaboid receptors in our brains, lol. but not "poisonous muchroom" receptors, so i think you will find that it is natural, its just that we overmedicate the brain till it starts functioning incorrently. read the following:
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when i was doing it once every 2 weeks, my uni marks were higher than they had ever been in 3yrs. maybe because it was nice to have a treat, and i take no other drugs such as caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, fast food(cheese hits the opiate receptors too!), TV! etc.
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I SAY:
1) Did I actually (at any point in my post) state that we do not have any cannabanoid receptors in our brains, or that cannabis isn't natural? I think that you've misinterpreted my post!
2) This is exactly what I am talking about, you mention that your university marks were the highest that they've been in the past three years, I agree that this is due to the association that you have created with cannabis, that it is a treat! Cannabis contains a chemical called THC and this chemical is a CNS Depressant and produces (in many individuals) euphoria, relaxation, enhanced appreciation of sensory stimuli and increased philosophical thought. It also makes you delusional. By saying that you didn't eat burgers, watch tv or take legal drugs such as alcohol and nicotine clearly indicates to me that you were / are heavily dependent on cannabis and willing to sacrifice other enjoyments in your life just to get that high from cannabis (thus justifying your usage) - just because you did it once every two weeks doesn't mean you are not dependent, by the way.
Also, you call cheese and television a drug, WTF??? I suppose you think going to bed is also a drug??? I think this is a perceptual problem that you have. Television is an entertainment system and cheese is a type of food of which contains calcium which is useful for our bodies. Cannabis doesn't contain anything of any purpose to our body and mind (apart from getting us stoned). All it does cause is damage, period! I used to think the same as you but it's just non-sense. If you were to think on this level, then absolutely everything in life that we enjoy could be considered to be a drug.
waking life, your comments:
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YOU SAID:
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I agree wholeheartedly! This particular thread is not intended to focus on how bad weed is. Very few things in this world are inherently "bad". I see little point in vilifying cannabis, unless that is what you need to do to help yourself.
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The whole "Drugs are Bad" argument falls short. Drugs are whatever you make of them. Unfortunately, many of us on this forum were not able to maintain "moderate use of drugs" and strayed into the realm of "abusing drugs". Moderate weed use is probably not a big deal. The question is this: "Can I use this substance in moderation in the long term?" For me, personally, I continually turn chronic (daily smoking) after a few weeks or months of moderate use. I have documented this pattern repeating itself for over the last decade.
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I SAY:
1) I kind of agree with you that cannabis is not at fault itself, but rather the user. Cannabis is afterall only a a genus of flowering plant, therefore it is pretty neutral unless THC is extracted and smoked. The reason that I demonise cannabis is because it all-but destroyed my life and have realised that nothing positive has ever come from smoking, initially it is like a god-send, then slowly begins to puncture the soul. Initially it gave me creative inspiration to write music and think weird things but I believe that I may have acheived this anyway, without drugs, it would just have taken longer, through the natural course of time. Rather than learning 10,000 years of education in one day as it were.
2) I completely disagree with this one, if you trust government statistics, they will show that use of soft drugs such as cannabis, lsd, mushrooms etc generally leads to use of more toxic substances such as speed, ecstasy and cocaine. I know that this was not what you were trying to say, but my point is, is that all drugs (I will encapsulate them) make you (in the majority of cases), whether you believe it or not, into a hedonistic and selfish person. Drugs are not bad or good, these terms are too simplistic to explain a complicated issue. Cannabis is a drug, it makes you high, it will not give you any deeper insight into reality, god, the universe or whatever. All that it does is alter your perception of reality and creates a false sense of security. If smoked, it damages your lungs. Which ever form of ingestion, it kills many a brain cell and does dampen your personality. It is also frowned up by society and is (lets not forget) still illegal. I respect good, law abiding citizens, granted, some are boring and lifeless but they are do gooders, and I like that. I know for certain (from past experience) that if people know you use cannabis, they lose repect for you. I personally like being respected. Taking drugs is plain and simply a selfish act, that's why I have no inclination to do it anymore! Nothing to do with battling against the dependency, I have just grown out of it and I'm sure most people will one day.