Bad hypnosis : permanent hyper-suggestibility

Postby delvalle » Wed May 27, 2015 7:17 pm

Dear all,

As a professional scientist, I am naturally curious about everything and when I encounter a phenomenon which I do not understand, I go into binges of web surfing or experiments trying to understand it.

Three months ago, it happened to be about hypnosis. I tried looked at youtube videos of people practicing so-called "street-hypnosis". Somehow, hearing repeatedly hypnotists words "you feel great, you feel happy an proud about being hypnotized, do you want to repeat experience ?" influenced me to mechanically listen to other hypnosis videos, including dangerous and misleading ones (you will easily find tons of videos that present themselves as harmless inductions, but that actually try to take you into much more dangerous hypnoses videos -- lots of hypno-fetishists trying to make naïve surfers addicted, loose agency, and trying to project their own destructive fantasies or new age cults on them).

I did not realize that I was being hypnotized as I seemed to be fully conscious. But after hours of binge-surfing so-called "hypnosis", "brainwashing", and "subliminals" videos, I realized the addiction that had built. I managed to shake that addiction off completely (but it was difficult).

I soon realized that I was full of extremely annoying post-hypnotic suggestions. I looked for "cleansing" hypnosis videos that would remove harmful suggestions.
There are very few of them, and interestingly enough, they end up being from those same hypno-fetishists (stay away ! ).

In the last months I tried carefully to free myself from those suggestions with some success, using self-hypnosis.

In the last months I have been in a state of hyper-suggestibility where everything I read, write or hear influences me instantly and strongly. It seems that half of the words trigger me into a state of mild hypnosis.
As you can imagine, it is extremely debilitating... and dangerous. Of course, I repeat myself that this hyper-suggestibility is fading away and it helps a little (especially to remove suggestions from what I just read or said).

But how can I remove those triggers and return to the safe levels of suggestibility that were mine 4 month ago ?

Thanks for your help !
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Wed May 27, 2015 9:01 pm

delvalle wrote:But how can I remove those triggers and return to the safe levels of suggestibility that were mine 4 month ago ?


It depends on the rate of error you are willing to accept. For instance, in your professional field, what is the acceptable rate of error (type I and type II)?
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Postby delvalle » Thu May 28, 2015 3:09 pm

Hi Richard,

You are asking what are the rates of rejected good suggestion and what are the rate of accepted bad suggestions I would tolerate.
In my specific area we rely on formal proofs, so the acceptable rate of error is 0%.

I am not sure what that rate was in my normal functioning... I did not do any statistics beforehand. I can only say that I had an very analytic mind, that I was very little suggestible about ideas - which to me just means I had a scientific mind. I am not sure however how suggestible I was emotionally, I was just happy with how things were.

I guess my suggestibility and my intellectual life coevolved to a certain equilibrium that made me function well.

Can't my unconscious mind remember himself what that suggestibility was, and adjust to it by feeding it with appropriate affirmations ?

At the moment it seems to me that half of the suggestions (good or bad) are downright accepted, when it comes to emotions, desires, and free-will. Fortunately my logical abilities are not affected yet.
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Postby jargan » Sun May 31, 2015 1:56 am

I'd like to talk to the level of you that is making all these suggestions happen, and due to your situation I guess we can get right to it. At this point, you probably have a very good recollection of what trance feels like, maybe just a mild one, maybe something more profound, sometimes it can be hard to tell. What matters is that you know how it feels to feel that certain way, hard to describe but easy to recognize after a while.

I get the impression that, at that level of you, you have discovered a new world in which magical things can happen, due to the power of hypnosis. And at that level, that's a great opportunity -- pretty much anyone wants to be able to do things that seemed impossible in the past, or just do things more easily, especially if it seems easy to make that happen. I mean, just listen to suggestions... and feel good... and things change for the better. Who wouldn't want that?

You are discovering part of that -- how easy it is to respond to suggestions. Even if it's a problem for you now, you're right to have unlocked that skill for yourself... it will serve you extremely well in the future (and it may even be serving you right now). What I'd like for you to consider -- at all the levels -- is that, ultimately, you have the ability to choose which suggestions to follow and which not to follow, and at this point maybe part of you has yet to realize that some of the things hypnotists on the web are not serving you as well as it might seem to that part of you. Maybe these hypnotists have said things like: it feels good to just give up control, to follow their ideas and all that. And that's perfectly reasonable, because it's perfectly possible to feel good about these things. The big question at that point is: how many other things can you feel just as good about? In fact, how good can you feel for no reason at all?

I can tell you from personal experience that feeling good isn't something that has to have any reason. We tend to grow up to think it does, but what we really do is put conditions on when we are allowing ourselves to feel "fine": I just need that shiny thing, or the approval of that person, or the feeling that I'm important, and so on. And there's nothing wrong about wanting things... nothing at all! But you have the ability to be completely fine without them. And that is something "evil" hypnotists want to distract you from. They want you to feel, at some level, as though you need to do what they want so that you can feel good... when, in reality, there are so many other things you can get the precise same feelings from!

So, I'd like for that part of your mind to start thinking about how many ways there are to leave the limiting, heavy-handed, controlling suggestions behind that you've got from various videos and maybe other sources... and keep everything that has allowed you to start being able to respond to suggestions that benefit you and give you more control, more freedom, more ability to enjoy life and to get more out of everything that matters to you. And I really don't know whether you'll do part of that consciously or just leave it all to the deeper parts of yourself... but, well, either way is better.

And whenever you are faced with ideas that are about limiting your choices, dragging you in a specific direction that may not be serving you, or anything like that, your mind will have done the homework to realize that there are much better alternatives to those ideas and they can be easily discarded.

For now, maybe one thing that would be beneficial is to take a few minutes to let your mind wander freely, and no matter what emerges into consciousness during that time, know that, right now, things are starting to change, and in a few weeks things might be so different that you can hardly remember what the problem was.
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Postby HypnoMorpheusDreamer » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:27 am

That is a very interesting situation, and responses. Wondering how it comes out...

Hope he posts again.
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Postby evilmancometh » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:23 pm

First of all I have been practicing hypnosis for over ten years, I have several degrees in this field, I have also performed hypnotic experiments on people, Several things. 1st in order for any one to follow a post hypnotic suggestion there has to be a purpose behind it, why they would want to follow it. Secondly no one will continue to follow a suggestion if it is harmful to them. There is no way a person will continue following a suggestion they don't wish to follow, I don't care how many times a suggestion is given under hypnosis, if there is a suggestion being repeatedly given to a person and that person doesn't wish to follow it, a person may become aggravated under hypnosis and wake up, they will tune it out all together, Your claims I call bs. What you suffering from is the Curiosity bug and nothing more.
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Postby All in the mind » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:34 pm

Your obsessive tendencies and curiousity is influencing your suggestibility. Also, consider what stress or anxiety you were going through 3 months ago (when it all started) and may have heightened your receptivity.
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