Rapid Inductions: read and post here

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Postby reggie » Tue May 01, 2007 9:36 am

753951 wrote:Thanks for the help.

I've been studying the videos I have of handshake inductions and I've memorised the actual induction I want to use. Off to the mirror now.
i did a spot on the the hand induction without the broken handshake and it worked, it wasnt any sort of interrupt and it wasnt someone i had hypnoed before. I guess it was was a suggestable person fluke. :?:
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Tue May 01, 2007 9:49 am

No fluke. You did it with at least the appearance of confidence and knowledge and clearly had the intent to hypnotise. Getting the few words down well enough so they roll off and being able to pace and lead on the fly make it easier still. Well done.

Understand I had hypnotised a good thousand people before I forced myself to do what you have just done. One you have done it there is no turning back.

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Postby TheDarkJay » Fri May 04, 2007 5:02 pm

I find that stringing Rapid inductions into one is very effective. My personal favourite is this:

Me: Can you just hold out your h...(start to raise your left hand as you say this), oh, are you right or left handed?

Me: Okay then, can you hold out your left hand (always left) like this, (demonstrate), great. Oh, thanks for this by the way (go to shake their right hand)(as soon as you take their hand, bring it to their forhead, and have it touch their face)

Me: Okay, just allow your eyes to close, and your body to just drift and dream as you go deeper and deeper.

Now, two possible things will usually happen. Either the left arm will drop down to their side, or it will not. Either way, do this:

Me: Whilst you just let your right hand drift and dream, go loose and limp, and fall by your side, going deeper and deeper as you do so. (you may want to just slowly move it there as you say this) (if their arm is still in the air, you can suggest it is stiff and rigid or whatever)

If their arm has dropped to their side, you can just apply very gentle pressure to the back of their head, pushing them into the typically dramatic 'standing trance' position. If not, I generally just take hold of their arm, and give it a slight tug, really really weak, and if you want to you can say sleep or whatever.

The pattern-break induction here, possilbly combined by an arm-pull induction, is very effective. Stringing such techniques together is very effective.
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Postby reggie » Sat May 05, 2007 4:24 am

I have found that almost all people that find out that i can hypnotise want to experience it, but when you pull a rapid technique i soon run out of volunteers and their enthusiasm turns into fear even though they witnessed the hypno contract. But when you step someone down into trance with people watching i have no problem with negative reactions and they relax and will redilly look into my eyes. What can you say to people that think you are going to zap and control them?
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Postby TheDarkJay » Sat May 05, 2007 10:08 am

If I were to ever do a stage show, I'd take five minutes to run through a quick induction (like a tweak of the Red-Green thing I actually posted in this forum) with the whole crowd. This gives you a good chance to observe their reactions, as well as introducing them to the idea of hypnosis.
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Tue May 08, 2007 11:41 pm

Dark jay,

I am with you on that. That is generally how I work.

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Postby Larspcus2 » Wed May 09, 2007 1:06 am

I have tried many rapid inductions with my friends and they have not worked. For example, I tell them to put their hand on mine and push down. I then tell them to push harder for a while e.g, push harder, harder. The I tell them to close their eyes, follow my instructions and listen to my voice, all in rapid succession. I then remove my hand and say "Sleep!" with as much authority as I can use under the circumstances. However, no one, even one person who (by the balloon test) is highly suggestible has actually responded to the induction. I cannot say sleep too loudly as I am usually in school, etc, is this a problem? Or is it something completely different? Also, I sometimes say something like and before I let go of their had and say sleep, could this be why it doesn't work?

PS:I'm going to try the handshake interrupt-look at your hand really soon, I'll post about how it goes. Okay, I didn't get to try it because the person I was going to try it on didn't show up.

PPS: I know that this is off topic, but could someone perform self-hypnosis to make themselves hallucinate that they are cool on a hot day, ect.
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Postby reggie » Fri May 11, 2007 8:10 am

[quote="Larspcus2"]I have tried many rapid inductions with my friends and they have not worked. I have read that you will have many failures before before you succeed, I have only had a few luckilly(awkward). But people will respond differently from day to day. One day they may be switched on and great deal of patience is needed to calm and relax them and a shock induction without some prework will be followed by, piss off you idiot. that is what i have seen anyway.
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Postby Larspcus2 » Sat May 12, 2007 5:24 am

Okay, I'll just keep trying.
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Postby kevsheldrake » Sun May 13, 2007 4:20 pm

When you say "Sleep!", reach behind their head with one hand and gently but firmly roll their head forward (into the 'hypnotic neck slouch'). I also immediately follow "Sleep!" with "That's right, just sleep and drift deeper and deeper and deeper and ..." in tandem with the head roll.

It also makes sense to suggest things that you want very early on. You may want their eyes closed to keep their focus inward as you deepen them. If so, you could say " ... with your eyes just resting there, twitching occasionally but generally just rested with their own pictures and images and ..."

If there are any noises, link them to them going deeper into trance - "and that firebell allows you to relax even deeper than before, relaxing the longer it goes on, relaxing deeper than before" <is> "and as it stops is your sign to go deeper still"

If they make any movements (twitches, coughs, shakes, whatever), you need to recognise them as indications of them going into trance and congratulate your subject accordingly - "That's right, that finger twitching takes you deeper into trance" - "A smirk can be a fun way to go deeper still," <they> "but not as deep as a giggle, that's right, a giggle can take you even deeper"

HTH

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Postby Larspcus2 » Sun May 13, 2007 5:15 pm

I don't think you would want to hypnotize someone when a fire bell is going off, but thanks.:D
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Postby reggie » Tue May 15, 2007 11:08 am

Larspcus2 wrote:I don't think you would want to hypnotize someone when a fire bell is going off, but thanks.:D

that hand pressing induction is an overload closing their eyes is a command but you loose their focus, a plain expressionless stare works if you dont loose your concentration by their expressions and throw in the sleep and drop when you see thier Que the glassy eyed look its time. Word from experience unless you are bigger than them tell you freind they will remain standing while hypnotised or get ready to catch and i tell you now people are far heavier than they look. I hypnotised a guy half my size with a three step down jerk and i only just caught him before he met the floor, yeah shocked. from other peoples stories i thought his head would drop and he would remain standing but post he didnt remember anything. :)
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Postby grovelli » Tue May 15, 2007 12:27 pm

What's a a three step down jerk?
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Postby reggie » Wed May 16, 2007 3:02 am

grovelli wrote:What's a a three step down jerk?
I dont know what you guys call it, stand there, as your eyes relax step forward (one hand behind neck one on other elbow,jerk) and sleep!.
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Postby Zarrin » Mon May 28, 2007 5:18 pm

Thanks a lot for all of your help everyone, I have been reading everything on Uncommon Forum for the handshake induction. However, a lot of you talked about the expectancy principle, but if you were to just go up to some random person on the street as shown in some videos, how can there be expectations of getting hypnotized?
Thanks for your help!
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