I want to kill women slowly and painfully

quietvoice wrote:

Rafique wrote:Women in my life, especially my grandmother, nags me to no end and puts me in situations which evokes extreme anger and annoyance.

Please provide at least three (3) examples of a situation that your grandmother put you in that evoked from you extreme anger.

I mean, since you're here chatting with us.

To be honest, I'm having trouble giving more than 1 example. Maybe my grandmother wasn't so bad.

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:

Rafique wrote:However, if I find that I was right, I'll be more destructive than I originally intended to be.

No you won’t, because destruction requires capability.

One thing the typical angry person has is an inflated sense of the damage they can do. Typically they only destroy themselves.

In rare cases the angry person destroys one other person and in even more rare circumstances they destroy a family. Then there are the 1 in a million cases that make the news.

Why are the vast majority of angry people so incapable? The answer is pretty simple. Anger is a sign the person never learned the skills required to be successful. Having never learned how to negotiate a relationship, they lack the capacity to get what they want. They think that anger and threats will get them somewhere. It gives them a momentary sense of control as they throw a tantrum, but the end result is society deals with them, placing them at the bottom of the hierarchy. The angry person typically fails to get promoted, they fail in relationships, and they fail in life.

Women are physically weaker than men. If I plan it right, I'll be alright.
Unfortunately the media promotes the extremely rare cases of the angry individual that is destructive and gets what they want. That is probably why you believe yourself capable, because you have been watching YouTube videos that promote anger. You see it, so you think you are capable of immense destruction.

Get off the Internet. Find some role models that can teach you other ways to handle relationships in life than making threats.

If I am to carry out a killing spree, I would plan of course.

Leo Volont wrote:Hi Everybody,

This guy does not have an anger issue.

like he says, he'd be able to smile at the cops and be perfectly calm. Yes, an experienced detective would 'detect' that he isn't acting like any normal "innocent" person would act when they are being grilled by the cops for a capital offense, but a Beat Cop canvassing door to door probably wouldn't pick up on anything. But, no, the guy is not angry. I doubt if he shows any emotion at all. His extremely violent fantasies are his way of trying to get something moving inside. Why does he target women? Well, he is probably heterosexually oriented, and also women are conveniently smaller than he is. Apparently he is not a little guy, and doesn't seem to imagine that he could lose a battle he initiates with a woman, but still he is not so big that he wants to take on guys Oh, and if all the women in his life hate him, then we can guess that he doesn't get along with guys either. Everybody feels his strange vibe and either avoids him or gets in his face about it, so, yes, he hates everybody, but zeroes in on women for his own safety and convenience. He is blasé about suicide, and probably isn't even worried about the pain. Oh, I wonder if he is into self mutilation.

But, yeah, we should recommend he find another department. His problem isn't with anger.

I don't disagree with you, in a way you're right.

Rafique wrote:If I am to carry out a killing spree, I would plan of course.

But you are currently incapable of planning. That is the point. You have such low skill currently, that you believe anger and threats is effective. Yet, even though you currently lack basic skills for negotiating relationships and navigating society you believe you can plan something much more sophisticated?

Again, we see the exceptions to the rule on the news. You don’t see the thousands of normal cases, where the angry person “plans” and fails.

Your posts in here are a good indication of your current lack of problem solving and critical thinking skills. On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you believe those skills?

The question is rhetorical. No need to answer, but worth taking some time to reflect. You are angry because you lack skills. If you had skills you wouldn’t be angry. The good thing is you can improve your skills. You can improve your ability to plan, your ability to solve problems.

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:

Rafique wrote:If I am to carry out a killing spree, I would plan of course.

But you are currently incapable of planning. That is the point. You have such low skill currently, that you believe anger and threats is effective. Yet, even though you currently lack basic skills for negotiating relationships and navigating society you believe you can plan something much more sophisticated?

Again, we see the exceptions to the rule on the news. You don’t see the thousands of normal cases, where the angry person “plans” and fails.

Your posts in here are a good indication of your current lack of problem solving and critical thinking skills. On a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you believe those skills?

The question is rhetorical. No need to answer, but worth taking some time to reflect. You are angry because you lack skills. If you had skills you wouldn’t be angry. The good thing is you can improve your skills. You can improve your ability to plan, your ability to solve problems.

Yeah, which is why before I plan, I'll have to build myself physically and intellectually. I never said I would just go do something without the necessary skills.

I'm not sure about being angry because I lack skills, I wasn't angry before finding out about MGTOW. Even if I had skills to negotiate a relationship, it doesn't change my view that women ruin a lot of men's lives and that they should suffer for it.

Rafique wrote:Even if I had skills to negotiate a relationship, it doesn't change my view that women ruin a lot of men's lives and that they should suffer for it.

You can say it, but you have no ability to know it.

It is like trying to say, that even if I had knowledge of neurology it won’t change my view of how the brain works. How would I know? It would be ignorant of me to say my views will remain the same regardless of what I learned, right? Until you have that knowledge, you can’t know how it will change your views.

Instead of a revenge plan, start a personal development plan.

Rafique wrote:. . . I should be able to live a very comfortable life with no responsibilities.

How I plan on doing this? Depends. One way I plan on doing this is to work part time in a convenience store, live with my parents and walk as my means of transportation.

That's a comfortable existence without responsibility?

When you do work for others, whether in their business or yours, you are taking on responsibilities. Uncheck the "no responsibilities."

What happens when your parents aren't around anymore, or they kick you out because they get tired of seeing your face in their home, are you going to live on the street? Very comfortable, that isn't.

Rafique wrote: If I'm right about women being evil.

Women are no more evil than men are evil.

People who hurt, and don't want to take responsibility for their part of the hurt, love to blame anyone or anything else that they can.

There are plenty of people who do not do their due diligence before taking on the responsibility of the contract of marriage. Walking blindly into a contractual arrangement with another person, using pure emotion (such as "love") without the balance of reasoning out the possible consequences—this is what leads many into this quagmire of warring partners and harrowing court battles that you may be reading about. In other words, men are not free of blame.

You've read many of the man's side of the story. How many times have you read the woman's side of the same story? (. . . and then, there's the truth, as they say.)

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:Instead of a revenge plan, start a personal development plan.

Excellent advice.

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:

Rafique wrote:Even if I had skills to negotiate a relationship, it doesn't change my view that women ruin a lot of men's lives and that they should suffer for it.

You can say it, but you have no ability to know it.

It is like trying to say, that even if I had knowledge of neurology it won’t change my view of how the brain works. How would I know? It would be ignorant of me to say my views will remain the same regardless of what I learned, right? Until you have that knowledge, you can’t know how it will change your views.

Instead of a revenge plan, start a personal development plan.

I never said I know it, which is why I say "my view".

quietvoice wrote:

Rafique wrote:. . . I should be able to live a very comfortable life with no responsibilities.

How I plan on doing this? Depends. One way I plan on doing this is to work part time in a convenience store, live with my parents and walk as my means of transportation.

That's a comfortable existence without responsibility?

When you do work for others, whether in their business or yours, you are taking on responsibilities. Uncheck the "no responsibilities."

What happens when your parents aren't around anymore, or they kick you out because they get tired of seeing your face in their home, are you going to live on the street? Very comfortable, that isn't.

Rafique wrote: If I'm right about women being evil.

Women are no more evil than men are evil.

People who hurt, and don't want to take responsibility for their part of the hurt, love to blame anyone or anything else that they can.

There are plenty of people who do not do their due diligence before taking on the responsibility of the contract of marriage. Walking blindly into a contractual arrangement with another person, using pure emotion (such as "love") without the balance of reasoning out the possible consequences—this is what leads many into this quagmire of warring partners and harrowing court battles that you may be reading about. In other words, men are not free of blame.

You've read many of the man's side of the story. How many times have you read the woman's side of the same story? (. . . and then, there's the truth, as they say.)

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:Instead of a revenge plan, start a personal development plan.

Excellent advice.

Little responsibilities then.

When my parents aren't around anymore, their house should be mine. If they decided to kick me out/not let me inherit the house, I'll rent a room then.

I've tried to, I can only think that men interacting with women is a bad idea.

What's the point of a personal development plan? I'm unhappy with women. A personal development plan won't change that, unless its for the purpose of being more efficient at killing women which I don't think you originally intended, or unless it's to make women's life miserable without losing my life.

I think I'm gonna stop posting here.

Ever since I found out about MGTOW, it has been a cycle of wanting to kill women and not wanting to. When in the phase of wanting to kill women, I contemplated it, then eventually entering a phase where I don't want to.

I think I'm reentering a 2nd phase. I need to find a way to stop this cycle because even if I succeed, it's only gonna cause harm. I think I just found one. It's not how I usually do it aka " saying i'll live my life as per normal but end my life by killing 3 women brutally or something, maybe 3 more if something happened which prompted me to do more than I originally intended, only then kill myself " I'm doing things that makes my mum cry. It feels so satisfying and I feel my hate for womanhood not subsiding but it doesn't bother me as much as it did before.Eventually, I wanna break her down so much that she don't wanna talk to me anymore, perhaps, then and only then will the itch be scratched, permanently. Wish me luck guys!

Hi Everybody,

I wonder what his problem with women is. Richard brought out the fact that the guy is just a teenager, and so we can assume that there is an element of sexual frustration. But what accounts for his notion that women are 'evil' and do a great deal of harm, etc. Well, nobody nowadays is very optimistic about the economy and career prospects. Any teenager who is paying attention should be worried about there being very little in the way of assured 'way to go' career paths (most job opening in the near future will be for Robots). However, I have read of various studies which indicate that young women, more than young men, are being more pro-active. Many are going to college and taking advanced degrees, but I would suppose that even the none-college women are somehow scrambling to make their way in the World. Perhaps our frustrated and "angry" (again I have a problem with his 'anger' status in that he has not described an anger episode. He talks of being frustrated and very discontented... he even used the word "rage", but has he raised his voice or even pounded on a desk? Maybe this kid thinks 'anger' is just negative thinking or having a grievance or complaint)...and our angry young man sees all of this Future Orientation and concern for their own well being in women as "selfish". He wouldn't be the first young man to suppose that women should dote on men (I wonder if half of these young men don't realize that pornography is not real, but that it presents an unrealistic portrayal of male female social dynamics). Also, many young men resent it that more affluent young men, who have cars, their own place, a promising career, or whatever, get all the attention from the young women in their sphere. These young men somehow believe that women should only seek out men for their inherent personal qualities... all that silly "soul mate" stuff that we would intuitively believe only belongs in Romance Novels and New Age products that largely appeal to women, but which seems to underlie many of the social and sexual assumptions of young men (sentimentalizing their views of women). So, being passed over by the young women he knows for male rivals that they find to be better prospects, well, instead of being 'angry' with with the men, his rivals, that is, guys whom he is probably physically afraid off, he blames the young women for being "evil", when actually I suppose the gals are just looking out for themselves, which is actually the responsible thing to be doing. (why is it that guys don't prioritize women whom they would like to date in terms of their family resources, and education and career prospects, while being able to tolerate certain flaws in their social and personal presentation?). But let me pull up short and stop a minute and admit that I am not sure about any of this. We know very little because the young man is rather vague and inarticulate. That is another problem with young men. They do not communicate well. their language skills are so poor that they have trouble even knowing what it is they think (mental concepts are nascent and wordless and therefore undefined, even for themselves). Their emotions puzzle them and they do not have the words to express what they are feeling either. So, yes, while we can ask the young man questions. well, I suppose the young man wishes he could himself ask his brain some questions and get answers that he could understand. He is socially and intellectually lost, and as Richard pointed out, he is trying to find his way by 'clicking' his way through on the Web. When I was a young man, I was able to build up my mental frames of reference by just a lot of general reading. So when I went to school and people spoke to me, well, at least I knew what the words meant, and it wan't always the first time I ever heard of some concept or notion. But many of the young people today only have the Web, that is they are influenced by just the mob of uninformed ordinary common thinking. Back when I was growing up I was not influenced by anybody who couldn't get published. that raised up the bar a great deal higher than the Web has it, and I was much better off for it.

I don't care if you kill women or not. Don't let what other people think stop you.

If you want to do it then it's up to you.

Dude you are

Rafique wrote: Wish me luck guys!

Wish you luck? You do realise about half the people on the forum are women?

All you need is to grow up, and that might happen anyway...

Rafique wrote:I think I'm gonna stop posting here.

Ever since I found out about MGTOW, it has been a cycle of wanting to kill women and not wanting to. When in the phase of wanting to kill women, I contemplated it, then eventually entering a phase where I don't want to.

I think I'm reentering a 2nd phase. I need to find a way to stop this cycle because even if I succeed, it's only gonna cause harm. I think I just found one. It's not how I usually do it aka " saying i'll live my life as per normal but end my life by killing 3 women brutally or something, maybe 3 more if something happened which prompted me to do more than I originally intended, only then kill myself " I'm doing things that makes my mum cry. It feels so satisfying and I feel my hate for womanhood not subsiding but it doesn't bother me as much as it did before.Eventually, I wanna break her down so much that she don't wanna talk to me anymore, perhaps, then and only then will the itch be scratched, permanently. Wish me luck guys!

Rafique,

I'll tell you what I did. I convinced someone to commit. I have urges to do it again I got great joy out of it. IMO convincing someone to take their own life is the perfect murder. Don't worry about what other people say, do what you feel is best. Just accept the consequences if they happen with a clean conscience.