Marijuana Withdrawals - My Experience, 2 Months Later

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Postby WeWillHeal » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:45 pm

NoProblem wrote:Hi Happiness,

It’s been about 2 years and a month since I quit and went through the hell I described above.

To answer your question: yes, you definitely will go back to normal. Yes, you’ll feel happy again. Everything will be alright. But you need to be patient. It will take a lot of will power and positive thinking.

Over the last 16 months, I have been in therapy to assist with the anxiety and phobic issues I developed as a result of the withdrawals. Neurobiofeedback was part of the process which has helped me.

I’ll reply more detailed soon, but give me some details about what you’re going through and I’ll try my best to help out.

Keep hangin’ on mate. You got this.


Hi NoProblem. Not sure if you are around these days anymore, but I just wanted to say thanks for all of your posts. I read every single one of your posts from the beginning of your journey until the end and it really helped me.

I am on day 84 since I had a horrific anxiety or panic attack that made me stop marijuana cold turkey after about 8 years of consistent use (A few months long breaks in-between).

I especially identify with your agoraphobia that you described and fear of flights. Flights were never fun for me, but I never truly feared them. Travel during holidays was always something I looked forward to and the thought of that now gives me waves of anxiety. Just 5 months ago I spent 30 days straight hiking and backpacking in the wilderness and the thought of that now also is a little unnerving. I also experience this as the passenger in a vehicle now and the furthest I have been away from my hometown since this all started in about 70 miles.

It has now been 3 years since your last post and I am curious how your phobias are today? Do you still go to therapy? Wishing you well, and thanks for all the posts. They really helped me today.

If anyone else who has successfully overcome a marijuana induced anxiety disorder/PAWS wants to comment on whether therapy worked for them or not, I would love to hear your story.

Have a great day!
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Postby NoProblem » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:59 pm

WeWillHeal wrote:
Hi NoProblem. Not sure if you are around these days anymore, but I just wanted to say thanks for all of your posts. I read every single one of your posts from the beginning of your journey until the end and it really helped me.

I am on day 84 since I had a horrific anxiety or panic attack that made me stop marijuana cold turkey after about 8 years of consistent use (A few months long breaks in-between).

I especially identify with your agoraphobia that you described and fear of flights. Flights were never fun for me, but I never truly feared them. Travel during holidays was always something I looked forward to and the thought of that now gives me waves of anxiety. Just 5 months ago I spent 30 days straight hiking and backpacking in the wilderness and the thought of that now also is a little unnerving. I also experience this as the passenger in a vehicle now and the furthest I have been away from my hometown since this all started in about 70 miles.

It has now been 3 years since your last post and I am curious how your phobias are today? Do you still go to therapy? Wishing you well, and thanks for all the posts. They really helped me today.

If anyone else who has successfully overcome a marijuana induced anxiety disorder/PAWS wants to comment on whether therapy worked for them or not, I would love to hear your story.

Have a great day!


Hey WeWillHeal,

I'm not around on these forums, but I do still get emails if someone replies to one of my posts.

You're more than welcome! I'm glad my experiences can provide some level of comfort during tough times. I remember going through the same looking for someone, anyone, that had a similar experience which lead me to share my own. I felt alone and afraid to be honest.

Since my last post, my phobias are generally manageable. The feelings of agoraphobia faded away around a year later (2017) through the help of therapy and exposure. I now travel long distances with comfort; however, I'm still randomly reminded of those anxious feelings from the past, but they have little control over me.

I've been on a few flights (some short, some long distance) since that point. In 2018, I flew to around 4 destinations. Each had it's own anxiety challenges; however, they all ended up going well! Nowadays, like most of us, the pandemic put a damper on any travel so I have some doubts about me flying and any anxiety that may arise in relation to it. Kind of a, "we'll cross that bridge when we get there" type of deal.

Today, my life is very different since that moment in 2016. I had a brief break from Therapy in mid-2019 and returned to a different therapist this past July. I have had some health issues arise that brought a whole different beast of anxiety to the surface which resulted in me finally trying some SSRIs (anti-depressants, Lexapro) to help. Overall, they've provided relief for many of my symptoms, but they also brought on a few of their own. I am not sure I will stay on them for long (doctor suggested 6 months, currently been 4 months), but they helped in the moment. Everyone's experience is different.

The reason I bring up medication is because I battled with the thought of trying them between 2016 - 2019, ultimately deciding not to. Therapy alone was doing great things for me. This present challenge felt different and I needed the extra help to assist with my current situation. Since 2016, I feel that anxiety has become a part of who I am and that's not a bad thing, but my life has definitely changed.

If I can make some suggestions to help, if you feel you will benefit, please explore your options for therapy. On the days where I felt like I had no hope, therapy worked to pick me up and motivate me. It provided validation and direction during the tough times. It made me set some concrete goals to help overcome and manage the symptoms of anxiety and the thoughts associated with it. I am confident it can also help you in the same ways. It takes time to find the right therapist, but once you get going, positive changes generally do happen.

There is also a book that I read during some tough times that made me feel in control of my phobias and anxious feelings. I still apply some of the things I learned in it to this day. It's called "At Last a Life" by Paul David. Give it a read some time. I'm sure it'll help out a little bit.

I hope this helps. I can go into much more detail about my therapy experiences, etc. if you would like. You might be able to PM me and we can discuss that there.

Take care!
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Postby Dum-dum » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:44 pm

[quote="Chronic Chronic" Also at 6 weeks you are most likely undergoing the Post-acute withdraw symptoms stage of withdrawal (PAWS). Do a little research on it, it just means your brain chemistry is trying to re-balance itself and your making progress![/quote]

I'm only at 2.5 weeks. It feels like 6 though. My symptoms have started to ease. The mild anxiety is lingering although that might just be from fear I will never feel normal again. What I do find is physical exertion makes me feel worse. Not swimming which I do in the mornings but I've been trying to clear a room of furniture and i keep having to stop to catch my breath and slow my heart down. I know I'm not THAT out of shape. That seems to be the symptom that bothers me the most. I haven't even tried to go back to the gym. Have you experienced that at all?
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Postby cropkingseeds121 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:37 am

I hope you feel better soon
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Postby Blinkers » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:23 am

This is so exhausting. I sleep 9pm to 2am. 3am to 7am 10am-11am 3pm-5pm
13 hours a day and I still feel exhausted, off balance, blurry vision, tinitus, headache, brain fog, demotivated, derealization and just looking at someone drains me let alone talking to them lol
One mouthful of coke and the next day Im even more wiped.
Spent my whole life sleeping 6-7 hours and feeling fine while smoking pot. (20 years on and off without major issue)
5 1/2 months and counting ...every ...single ...painful....day :)
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Postby biohack9 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:19 pm

Blinkers cut out the morning and afternoon sleep and your night sleep might improve.
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Postby cropkingseeds121 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:32 am

NoProblem wrote:Hey everybody,

I have hesitated to post my marijuana withdrawal experience since the day it started; however, I feel now is a wise time to do it. Before I start, I wanted to thank all of those who have posted on this forum. There are too many usernames to list through. All of these posts have helped calm me down during endless nights of insomnia and heart racing anxiety filled days. I hope that my experience can provide the same comfort and hope for others going down this path. As unique as my experience is, I hope that others can relate.

Background: I have smoked marijuana for approximately 4 years, on and off. I suffer from ulcerative colitis which is a form of IBS/IBD that affects the lower part of the large intestine. Marijuana provided me the relief I needed during hard times. Unfortunately, over the past year (July 2015 – April 2016), I began to smoke every day, not for relief, but because I was addicted. This ranged from smoking through a vaporizer, to joints and bowls. I began to notice that anytime I was not working or lifting weights in the gym, I was high. Life became stale and revolved around when I would get to smoke next. I was smoking approximately 2g’s per week, which may not seem like a lot.

As a side note, I have had one major panic attack in my life which was not associated with marijuana. I have had moments of anxiety when I would get very high, but I would tell myself that my high was at its ‘peak’ and that it would go away shortly. Sure enough, this held true and it went away.

Onto the withdrawals …

In March of 2016, I realized that I needed to tone down my marijuana habits. Having quit cold turkey in the past before with no effect, I figured this would be no different. The following week was filled with odd moments of anxiety and feelings of claustrophobia (new to me), but nothing major or concerning. I thought nothing of it and continued on. I took a mini vacation to visit some family in the southern USA which was not pleasant. I boarded my flight only to be met with feelings of anxiety and the precursor to a panic attack while on my flight. I managed to control the symptoms until we landed at my destination. I was baffled. This left a dent on my love of flying which still affects me today. That weekend, I felt oddly anxious with no explanation and I began to question if this was the result of quitting. I immediately disregarded that and convinced myself that it was harmless. On my flight back home, I was met with anxiety throughout my whole flight trying to fight back panic. I felt trapped but did what I could until we landed once again. I was baffled at this point. That night, I relapsed and smoked again. Withdrawals weren’t real, I thought. It’s all in my head.

The following two weeks, I had smoked on and off for a total of about 4-5 days with minor symptoms. The last time I smoked was April 10th, which was met with a severely anxious session. I took one hit of a joint and the anxiety would not go away this time. I immediately told myself that it was time to stop for good. No turning back.

The week that followed was terrible. I was anxious doing almost anything, thinking I would have a panic attack at any moment. I had to walk out of work a few times and sit outside because I was anxious for no reason. At this point, I began to question if it really was withdrawals. I brushed it off once more and assumed that I was anxious about an upcoming flight. The anxiety gradually faded until the day of my flight. I had no appetite and severe anxiety. I boarded my flight, flew down south and all my feelings went away. Once again, I brushed off withdrawals being the cause. The following day, everything changed …

I was making a drive from Atlanta, GA to New York City (17hrs with traffic) to help a family member move. Upon awaking at 3am, I immediately began to shake uncontrollably. I tried to take down my breakfast, but I couldn’t finish it. I felt nauseous. We loaded up the truck and hit the road. The whole time, I was severely anxious, shaking, sweating at times. I felt very faint and had no appetite. I was confused, worried and scared. Upon arrival at our hotel on Long Island, NY, my symptoms went away and I was able to eat. I went to bed concerned that night, but I had no trouble sleeping.

Within 5 minutes of waking, the withdrawals hit me like a train. I was shaking. My heart was racing. I was sweating. I had no appetite, but I was starving. I felt like I was going to have a panic attack at any moment. I felt severely depressed and I wanted to break down and cry. All of this, not at home, in comfort. I couldn't sleep due to my racing heart and racing thoughts. I was so anxious; I could barely leave the hotel in fear of panic. I felt agoraphobic. Every step I took outside, I debated running back to my hotel room and crawling into bed. For the next three days, these symptoms stuck around. This is when I began to do some research and came across the reality that is marijuana withdrawals. I had to cancel my flight and drive back home (10 hrs) which was agonizing in itself. I felt defeated and saw no end in sight.

At this point, I was convinced I was going through severe withdrawals. Over the next 2 months, I experienced waves of severe anxiety, severe depression, random loss of appetite, debilitating fear of leaving the house, severe insomnia, vivid dreams, vertigo and dizziness, headaches and DR/DP. Everything almost seemed fake, foggy, and dreamlike. Something as simple as going to the gym made me near panic. I would have to stop between repetitions and breathe deeply out of fear of a panic attack. I consulted a family friend that is a physician and explained my situation. He immediately agreed that this was withdrawals and the worst happens within the 4-6 week period. He prescribed me a low dose (0.25mg) Xanax and 2mg Valium to use as needed, but warned about their addictive properties. Thankfully, I have only used the Xanax once, 7 weeks ago. I have not touched a benzo since.

As time went on, my symptoms began to lessen. I would have days of severe anxiety with no other symptoms. Then I would have days where I would shake uncontrollably, no appetite with depression, but no anxiety. My sleep patterns have been all over. Some nights, I would sleep for 8 hours. Others, I would wake 4-5 times, tossing and turning, having the same repeated dreams over and over. My heart would race and I would turn to forums like this one for comfort. This leads me to the present day.

I am gradually beginning to have interest in things again. I avoided socializing during this process; however, my job requires me to travel for work primarily by car, so I fought through the anxiety to the best of my ability. I can safely say that most of that is now gone. I still have some minor fear of boarding a flight due to my past experiences, but I am convincing myself that it was due to the withdrawals and my body is recovering. I feel as if this experience has left a permanent mark on my brain and thought process. Every time I imagine doing something new, the first thought that comes to mind is me having a panic attack in that situation; however, I do my best to think positive thoughts and proceed to do it anyways, anxiety free. It’s as if I’m retraining my brain not to be afraid or anxious of everything.

I have been supplementing with 5-HTP (100mg), Fish Oils (1200mg) and a multivitamin daily. I plan on stopping the 5-HTP today. I am exercising daily and hope for better days.

I feel that I can go into plenty more detail about the withdrawals themselves; however, I don’t want to have a wall of text as that can be daunting to read sometimes. If anyone can relate, please share. I still have moments where I doubt if I’ll ever recover, even though things have gotten better. The anxiety still lingers at random times and while I understand that PAWS is likely jumping in, it’s hard to convince myself of that.

I hope my ongoing experience can provide comfort to others. For all those in this journey or just beginning, be as patient as you can. Things will get better! This will pass and know, you’re definitely not alone! Feel free to PM me if you would like.

Thanks.


keep it up mate, you're doing good.
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Postby Deepcallstodeep777 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:48 pm

How are you doing now? I’m 30 days in and I’m going through it. My heart races a lot, it’s scary. Did yours Race a lot? How’s life now. I hate weed.
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Postby biohack9 » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:55 pm

3.5 months in now and my heart beats at least 20bpm higher than usual. Never even considered this a symptom but also likely high blood pressure. Weed is absolutely horrible for the heart.
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