The thing is though, that strong hot flushes do go very rapidly from "totally fine" to "OMG, I'm on fire" and I am asleep when this transition happens, so it makes sense to me that I only wake up when, and because, it's WAY TOO HOT. That’s not odd.
The *perception* changes rapidly. Yes, you’re used to that. However, doesn’t it seem odd that your body temperature would be stable for hours and then all of a sudden rapidly spike up to legitimately unacceptable temperatures? I mean, maybe it’s real, but it at least sounds strange enough that I’d be curious if it’s really happening.
It's difficult to have any sense of it when I'm asleep and I don’t have an answer to your question of “what might have happened if you’d not cooled off”. (Can't I pull the "I couldn't help what happened, I was hypnotised/asleep card? )
...But you woke up. You don’t have to answer it while you’re asleep, you can answer it now by looking back to what it was like when you woke up and imagining what might have happened if you hadn’t cooled off.
I must say, at this point, I’m in agreement that waking me up to throw off the duvet is a sensible thing for my body to do, if it's really needed. I'm inclined to trust the control room guy’s judgment call on those strong ones.
Right. And that very well may be a sensible thing to do. I’m not trying to change your mind, just to show you that this isn’t necessarily the end of the road.
It’s worth noting that just because you weren’t listening well and were discounting the strength of the other side’s evidence doesn’t mean you’re wrong. You can get blown off for good reason even when you’re right, and listening better does not *necessarily* mean you have to change your mind. It just means that you listen until they say “okay, you get it, I trust you”. At that point, if you still don’t agree…
... then what?
Then you can say “here’s why don’t agree” to open ears, and see what happens.
[...]I’m okay with waiting until it really is necessary and letting the milder ones rise and fall by themselves without needing a response". So maybe I'm giving up too easily on seeing how much further I can influence this? I'm pretty chuffed with what has happened already.
If you’re happy you’re happy, and that’s great. I just want to make sure it’s clear that if you were to decide you wanted *less* hot flashes, this path continues further.
Just don’t go telling people that talking to me on the forum only got rid of *some* of your hot flashes, without mentioning that you chose to keep the rest :p
(Complete non sequitur: do you lucid dream? I've never mastered it; I bought 3 books and tried and tried, but couldn't.)
I used to, until I lost interest. It’s kinda a trip. Especially the wake induced lucid dream, which has to have been the biggest mind **** I’ve ever experienced.
I found that lucid dreams were fairly simple to induce, actually. Direct suggestion was most often enough, which has some interesting implications. One way I’d do it is just state as a matter of fact “I am going to have a lucid dream tonight”. I even had a lucid dream the night I told someone “The way I lucid dream is by saying [...]”, which was neat and unexpected.
What happens if you just try direct suggestion?
I don’t understand. Is this different from the above?
I was suggesting that maybe your temperature was climbing *slowly*, and that you just didn’t notice it until it was over the line. If this is the case, then maybe the solution is to notice sooner.
Yeah, I did go and look at thermometers, but they are too damn sophisticated and expensive now. What happened to the old oral thermometers with (was it mercury?) in them, that you could pick up for a few bucks? If I find something a bit cheaper, I'll buy it.
They’re still around. I dunno about where you live, but here but you can get a digital oral thermometer for $5 or so. Maybe your country sucks or something
5-7 bpm doesn't sound all that healthy; hope that isn't your normal state of affairs. What is your normal pulse rate? If you’re a fit guy, it can be much lower than normal, sure, but 5-7 sounds alarming to me, as a nurse. Then again, you do some other unusual stuff, so maybe…
I meant “down [by] 5-7 bpm”, not “down [to] 5-7 bpm”. If I’m lying down and resting I might get down to 53-55, and by intentionally trying to slow my heart further I might be able to get down to 48. Maybe one or two lower at most. I don’t think I’ve gotten below 46.
I haven’t really worked at it, and much lower is clearly doable.
Here’s a guy who gets down to low 30s. Apparently one or two guys out there do claim 7.
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/trav ... 53712.htmlhttps://forums.deeperblue.com/threads/h ... bpm.19878/