Nutritional Aspects of Depression

Postby jurplesman » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:33 am

I am new to this board and had a glance at some of the posts here.

I am a retired Nutritional Psychologist which means that I combine nutritional therapy with psychotherapy.

It is my belief that depression is basically a physical disease, affecting synthesis of neurotransmitters in the brain, especially serotonin. If that is correct then it would be difficult to accept that psychotherapy can address the underlying biochemical disorder, just as psychotherapy cannot treat diabetes.
The connection to nutrition can be explained by the fact that the forerunners of neurotransmitters are found in the food we eat.

For instance, tryptophan is an amino acid (protein building block) found in most high protein food sources that is converted to serotonin in the presence of vitamin B6 and magnesium.

There are many other biochemical mechanisms, that affect the synthesis of beneficial neurochemical. Again, if we are deficient in vitamin B3 (niacin), then the body will use up all the available tryptophan in the body for conversion to niacin at the rate of 60 to 1. This would leave very little tryptophan for conversion to serotonin.

Thus we are introducing a new concept in the treatment of depression, and for that matter any other mental illness. Most psychologically oriented counsellors believe that many of our negative thoughts are the cause of depression, whereas I tend to see these as the SYMPTOMS of depression and not causes.

Scientific studies have shown that there is one very common factor in depression found to be insulin resistance (hypoglycemia).

This means that there is an obstruction in the availability of glucose to the brain as its only source of energy. With unstable blood sugar levels the body is producing stress hormones - such as adrenaline and cortisol - that cause the wildly fluctuating mood swings, anxiety attacks, insomnia, depression. The adoption of the hypoglycemic diet is an essential part of overall treatment. This diet stops the uncontrolled production of stress hormones when blood sugar levels normalize.

When we have uncontrolled emotions generated by internally produced stress hormones, we are likely to externalize these feelings to whatever happens to be in our environment that can act as a stimulus. This is, as I see it, how phobias are created. In the absence of any logical explanation to these internally driven hormones we tend to blame our past, or any significant event that may be associated with these feelings.

Nevertheless, psychotherapy has a role in that once the underlying metabolic disorder is being treated (my preference is without drugs through nutritional therapy[y), a person need to learn social skills to handle psychological stress situation in the here-and-now. Psychological stress will trigger the release of stress hormone, that interfere with the synthesis of serotonin and other beneficial neurotransmitters. A most common source of stress is a low self-esteem, which appear to be common among people with a ‘mental’ illness.

If you are interested in this approach please read:

“The Nutritional Aspects of Depression” at:

http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles ... ssion.html
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Postby Roger Elliott » Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:12 am

Hello Jurriaan

A big welcome to the forums to you - an interesting first post, and the first of many I hope.

Our approach to depression certainly takes account of nutritional aspects, although I suspect not in such depth as yours, as you will see from our site the Depression Learning Path.

I hope you find it interesting - apects of it may well fit in with your approach.

All the best

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:47 am

Thanks for sharing those thoughts and the link.

I have a friend who has just qualified as a naturapath and I am fasacinated with the insights she has given me into how nutrition affects us. Her main gripe is that even if you have a healthy diet and do your best to eat lots of fruit and veg, the chances are you will still be lacking in essential vitamins and minerals given that the way food is farmed and treated on it's way to the supermarket means that it will be lacking in things you may assume would be present.

Much of what we need is simply not present in the soil our food is grown in.

I am interested in helping my clients make changes at the neuro peptide level using their minds, she comes at this from a different direction - the gut.

Keep the posts coming.

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Postby Victoria » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:32 am

Salve, :shock:
I'm finally coming out of the closet - have been an avid, albeit silent reader of this highly recommendable and helpful forum for years and have just been motivated enough into overcoming my "writing in public" angst.
:D

Jurpelsman - Your post is greatly appreciated. After many trails and tribulations - years of physical and psychological pain I have just recently started enjoying (and trusting) a better quality of life.

The short history version: anorexic, manic depression, candida, IBS, chronic fatigue etc. etc. etc. and all the symptoms and more if I could bemoan them. :oops: That was then.

Before I found this site.

Now: I've stopped poisoning myself with nicotine , went up the learning path and am - dare I say it - HAPPY! Can now fly without medicinal help and no longer get the heeby jeebies when confronted with the unknown, - the list goes on and on.

The other part of my healing process came ultimately from believing in change - and learning to listen what my body was telling me. I finally had enough confidence to question my doctors' authority and ignorance :evil: and change to a more holistic inclined general practitioner who listened. :D

I have Hashimoto (for those not yet through the easy readable and very interesting links - auto-immune induced under-active thyroid) among other minor gripes. To be ignorant for so long of the simple and effective cure to a quite embarrassing and distressing bloated stomach caused by lactose intolerance seems such a shame. Especially when the answer is so obvious.

Mind you, the Alexander technique for breathing and the stress management helped calm and reduce the stimuli.

The mood swings from sugar cravings, the low energy levels etc are now things of the past. My sons' "hyper-activity" and concentration levels have also vastly improved due to the awareness of consequences - of both thought and action. We have still got to work on plenty of things and it is so much easier knowing there is help. No matter what.

All this because I have received enough emotional backing from all you thoughtful, untiring and selfless people here on this forum.
For that I thank you, sincerely.

I'm a woman I`'m allowed to "gush" :lol:

P.s. I do have questions though too:
Upon deciding to free oneself from the hazards of tobacco, would you say that the potential "oral ersatz" satisfaction of eating is initialized through the habitually programmed "slot machine reflex" (one arm ban (d) it - sic)
- or due to a combination of the above and a possible chemical imbalance caused by abruptly with-holding an allergen which has been a part of the biological make up. Can one even put a time factor on how long it takes for the remaining chemicals and "household dependents" to readjust to the new balance?
And: Has reducing milk intake counteracted the candida or is that just a coincidence?

P.P.s Phew, Posting this has been so liberating - It just took time and now I'm no longer a non-participating voyeur I intend to amend the quantity/quality ratio.
:roll:
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Postby Michael Lank » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:24 am

Salve Victoria,

Welcome to the Forum, and an excellent first post.

It's great to hear that you've made such great improvements to your life, many people on the forum will be encouraged by the steps you've made.

I agree with you about believing in change - often the change itself is not so hard, but believing that change is hard makes it tough to accept that it can be easy!

Now that you know how liberating it is to post on the forum I hope we can look forward to more of your interesting and informative posts.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:42 pm

I second that! A big welcome out into the open Victoria. As I have mentioned before, I am coeliac (which is basically an auto-immune reaction on consumption of gluten).

I can testify to the improvement in health (both physical and psychological) when you get your sorted out - it's a real shame that many doctors do not understand what impact diet can have. However, I have met nutrionists who think there is nothing 'but' diet. The best work hand in hand with one another.

I too hope we will see you out here in public more and more.

All the best

Roger

P.S. Feel free to gush any time! We love it ;)
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Postby Roger Elliott » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:07 pm

Most psychologically oriented counsellors believe that many of our negative thoughts are the cause of depression, whereas I tend to see these as the SYMPTOMS of depression and not causes


Personally, I believe both to be true. I have seen people recover dramatically from depression when they learn to control the amount of negative introspection (ruminating) they do and balance their basic needs, which in turn affects the production of hormones and neurotransmitters.

I have also seen people who would not respond to psychotherapy who have improved dramatically to a nutritional approach. That said, it is usually apparent when thinking styles are not to blame for a depression as the individual simply does not 'fit the mould'.

Psychologically-based depression is a cycle in my view - ruminating and missing basic needs lead to alterations in physiology lead to more negative thoughts and lack of energy lead to further alteration in physiology (as outlined in the cycle of depression. )

A fascinating discussion Jurriaan - thanks for starting it.

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