I think I have a story which is unique

Postby DrowningAlone » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:17 am

I have a story which is different. Everybody who is depressed feels that nobody can relate to them – and that is what makes them feel so isolated – but truly, what I have experienced is so unusual that I really do think I am all alone in it. I am writing this so somebody other than me knows what has happened. I just want someone to know.

I used to be a happy and productive person. I had a successful and rewarding career teaching at the college level and have helped many young people turn their lives around. I backpacked around the world for two years before it was fashionable to do so, have lived in many cultures, and have had many unique life experiences. I was the person who never let obstacles get in my way; for example, I was in a major car accident when I was 26 in which I was told I would never walk again, but a year later I was whitewater rafting and mountain climbing. I was the person who was always the inspiration to others, who others wanted to emulate. I was actually a very genuine motivational speaker for awhile too.

But it’s almost as if God, or the universe – whatever you want to call it (that’s another debate!) – said OK, you think you are so strong? You think you are so evolved?... well, then try THIS on for size. And at each occasion when life handed me lemons I made lemonade out of them, approaching things with a positive attitude and with humor. But all that did is make life “up the ante,” so to speak, as if to say... OK, you handled that one better than anyone could have imagined... now get past THIS. And after years of relentless pounding on my soul, life has truly beaten me down to the point where I really don’t have any reason to keep on going. I give up.

OK, some details... here are a few of the thousands of things that have beaten me down. And this is only a small sampling, not even 1% of all the painful things I have experienced.

My father committed suicide. My sister was killed in a car accident. My wife (and soulmate) was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer at age 37 (stage 4 is the stage after it has spread to other areas of the body). I was in two tornados (two years in a row), one of which significantly damaged my house and only my house (it touched down on my house and then left the state). And while I was distracted taking care of my wife during her cancer, my business partner (and best friend, or so I thought) embezzled every penny I had out of a joint business venture had together, leaving us destitute.

The car accident I was in at 26 (mentioned above) involved a major head impact. Although I did have an incredible recovery given that I was told I may never walk again and, as mentioned above, I defied my doctor’s expectations, the consequences of this head impact were still significant. I have lived with traumatic brain injury since then, similar to what happens to football players who take one too many hits to the head. I am in constant pain, have an overwhelmingly difficult time sleeping, and am barely able to function on many days. Everything that can be done for me medically has been done, both with conventional and alternative medicine. It is how it is.

I actually look and act completely normal and quite healthy – you wouldn’t know there was much wrong if you met me -- but I am in constant, agonizing pain, and it is pain that cannot be treated by drugs. You have to have pain from a brain injury to really understand pain that is not affected by drugs.

One of the worst parts of the traumatic brain injury I live with is that is makes it exceedingly difficult to interact with others. Many interactions with people cause me to get very “animated,” for lack of a better word, with my adrenaline flowing like I am in fight or flight mode. It leaves me totally exhausted and can take hours or sometimes even days to recover from. It is somewhat easier if I am interacting with someone who has a calm “energy” to him or her, but even then it is still very difficult.

And I kid you not... I have hundreds of things more like those described above that has happened to me, many of which are even more incredible than the ones mentioned above. These are just the ones that were the quickest and easiest to explain.

What a strong statement that is... that the things mentioned above are not even the most difficult life challenges that have I have faced. But this is true. I rarely share all of it with anyone because it is so unbelievable that people usually don’t know how to respond. Everybody has things like this happen to them eventually, it’s part of life. But nobody has things like this happen to them on a constant basis – at least not that I have ever heard of -- year in and year out. Except me, apparently.

I could give more examples of what has beaten me down (that is, I could list out the other 99%) but all that is going to do is make this into an even longer essay than this already is. Just multiply what I described above by 100... and then you’ll understand where I am at.

Can you imagine the isolation and loneliness of this all? I have always been the person who bounced back from the impossible but everyone has a limit. I am only human and there is so much I can take. And the adrenaline issue described above makes it even more isolating because it is hard to interact with people who might want to help. My wife was my main source of support but the cancer took that away.

I am so very depressed, a man who has been beaten down by life. I give up.

Thank you reading this, I just wanted somebody to know. Please don’t feel like you have to give me some piece of helpful advice; I am further into this process than this short explanation might make it appear and I probably have already done it. Please just let me know you have read this and keep me in your thoughts. Please remember me.
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Postby Jim1 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:19 am

DrowningAlone wrote:But it’s almost as if God, or the universe – whatever you want to call it (that’s another debate!) – said OK, you think you are so strong? You think you are so evolved?... well, then try THIS on for size.


Hi,

It sounds like you do believe in some sort of higher power at work(as do I). And I see that you've been through an awful lot in your life, so the best suggestion that I can give is to maybe stop trying to prove that you have all the answers and just put your life in God's hands. Pray to God and say something like... "God, I can't do it anymore. I now place my life completely in your hands. Please let me know what you want me to do.. If you will make this clear to me somehow, I will follow it." I prayed a similar prayer several months ago and later that day actually received the guidance that I needed to get my life back on track.
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Postby DrowningAlone » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:39 am

Jim1, thank you for your reply. I was starting to get a little disheartened that a lot of people had read my post but nobody had replied.

What you say has merit, and you are right, I have concluded that this is indeed a spiritual challenge. Now keep in mind that before all this started 20 years ago I was hard-core atheist. Hard core. I thought that anyone who believed in a higher power of any kind was delusional. But halfway through this I had to conclude that statistically what I had been experiencing is simply impossible unless there were a higher power at work. The sheer volume of the things I had experienced (and remember, I only scratched the surface of the details in my original post, maybe I should give some more) was mathematical proof that there is more to this life than meets the eye.

And of course I realize that if there were indeed a higher power to the universe – let’s call this God, whether or not there is actually a consciousness to it – and that God wanted to change this very stubborn atheist’s mind, that this would be what he would do. I get that.

But I changed my mind years ago and I have been saying essentially the prayer you laid out on a consistent basis. I stopped praying for any particular thing to happen or not to happen; I realize that this was futile. My prayer has simply been to be shown what it is that I am supposed to be doing given all these experiences, the path I should be on. There HAS to be a reason for me to have been put through all this. Some people who have talked to me about this in the past think that I am being put through all this because I am supposed to be some kind of spiritual leader someday, but believe me, I am about as far away from that as a person can get right now.

I have tried to have faith but it seems as though regardless of how much faith I have, God “ups the ante,” as I said in my original post. I have read the story of Job, and I mean this literally, everything he experienced I have experienced too, including boils, losing all my riches, all my friends and family turning their backs on me -- and even locusts! I am not sure locusts is actually in Job (it may be somewhere else in biblical literature) but I was forced to move out of a place I was living at because of a grasshopper infestation, which is pretty darned close to locusts. And I have actually been forced to move over 20 times in the last 20 years due to things beyond my control like this. The full story of what I have gone through is just unbelievable.

So I agree with you that I need to address this on a spiritual basis, and I have had some occasionally unexpectedly good things happen when I have been able to remove ANY agenda of mine from the situation. But when you are dealing with the volume of things I am dealing with – just the sheer physical pain alone – it’s a LOT harder than it looks. It seems that God is leaving me zero room to be human, and to have any doubt whatsoever. The slightest bit of my trying to have my own agenda – like just wanting to be able to sleep more than a couple of hours a night, for example – result in a new and unforeseen obstacle put in my way. It’s crazy making.
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Postby Jim1 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:55 am

DrowningAlone wrote:So I agree with you that I need to address this on a spiritual basis, and I have had some occasionally unexpectedly good things happen when I have been able to remove ANY agenda of mine from the situation.


Yeah I think you're onto something here. And I'm certainly not trying to proselytize or anything like that here.. just that I strongly believe as well, based on my own experiences, that there is indeed more going on than most people have any idea about. And I have found that a lot of it has to do with our own beliefs and basically what we expect to happen. But the catch is that trying to influence it in any way tends to backfire. We need to find a way to get into flow with it. For me the best way is to pray and very sincerely ask for guidance. Anyway, don't get disheartened. I am going to bed now, but I will be back on tomorrow late afternoon. Take care.
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Postby quietvoice » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:37 pm

Your body wants to generate itself into health; that's what it is constantly doing. But our culturally customary eating practices get to be too much for the body to handle without showing symptoms, hence the cancer, and the failure to recover from injury. Please check out robertmorsend on YouTube, GrapeGate.com (an information site), and MoveYourLymph.com (a forum), for resources and a change of direction in your life.

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P.S. On the view count after your first post, I'll admit that I clicked on this page, saw the long story, and moved on as I didn't have the energy to read a long story at the time. Just saying that it's possible not everyone read your story on first view. Glad I did now. Also, make sure that you pay attention to what you are attending to in your imagination. (The essence of) what goes on in your imagination is what is expressed in your life. I like to read Neville Goddard's works regarding using your imagination in a conscious way.
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Postby Jim1 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:17 pm

quietvoice wrote:Also, make sure that you pay attention to what you are attending to in your imagination. (The essence of) what goes on in your imagination is what is expressed in your life.


Yeah this correlation has been written about pretty much since the dawn of man. And I have experienced this effect in my own life countless times.
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Postby LostNerd » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:07 am

I'm so sorry. That's terrible.
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Postby whybotherwhynot » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:39 am

I did experience difficulties in my life, but they could not be comparable to yours. Your story is very unique. I can't imagine how I could take it or would be if I were in your situation.

I hope you feel better after telling us here about what you had to go through in your life because you could get something off your chest more or less.

I don't know what to say. I would like to share the following links with you:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 335AANJOGH

https://cellebratelife.wordpress.com/20 ... rom-god-2/

I experienced many times when I felt weak, I asked God for strength; and when I felt not being smart in dealing with some issues, I asked God for wisdom, then I could solve or overcome with those problems easier. I believe I am not hallucinated. I learned that when I pray to God to grand me strength and wisdom each day before going to work, my day went smoother than I did not pray or I thought to myself that I should be smarten up to deal with problems that come up. I learned to surrender and lay my burdens to God’s feet. I know I’m weak, but He is strong.

I hope you find someone stronger than you (I believe that is God only) to be with you and can help you to take your burdens away. I hope you find peace in your heart and strength in you body.
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Postby DrowningAlone » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:58 am

whybotherwhynot wrote:I hope you feel better after telling us here about what you had to go through in your life because you could get something off your chest more or less.


WhyBotherWhyNot -- thank you for your kind thoughts. Yes, it does help to simply have other people know what I am going through, I am about as isolated as someone can get right now. I know that there is nothing anyone can do. But it does make me feel less alone just knowing there are people wishing me well.

I think I may have made my original post too long, as somebody mentioned previously. Maybe that demotivated people from reading it; I had hoped more people would respond. But I am glad you did... thank you.

I will check out the links you gave me. But you and Jim1 are right, the only way to deal with this is on a spiritual level. I really have done all the other stuff already.
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Postby DrowningAlone » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:06 am

Jim1 wrote:
And I have found that a lot of it has to do with our own beliefs and basically what we expect to happen. But the catch is that trying to influence it in any way tends to backfire.


You've got that right! That is the challenge, to actually not be attached to the outcome.
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Postby Candid » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:37 am

DrowningAlone wrote:I have a story which is different. Everybody who is depressed feels that nobody can relate to them – and that is what makes them feel so isolated – but truly, what I have experienced is so unusual that I really do think I am all alone in it. I am writing this so somebody other than me knows what has happened. I just want someone to know.


Dear one, I got curious about you after our interaction on that other thread. I don't know how I missed this one.

I can match you point for point. Really. I won't do it here because this thread is about you.

I am so very depressed, a man who has been beaten down by life. I give up.


I so get this. You cite a partial history that shows you being floored, struggling to your knees, and getting whomped again -- despite the courage it took to keep smiling and make lemonade out of lemons hundreds of times. I want you to know you're not alone, that there are plenty of us the Universe (or God) seems to have singled out for endless victimhood. It's tempting to look back and make causal links between the worst events, but they are in fact separate and random things. The only common denominator is you.

Can you imagine the isolation and loneliness of this all? I have always been the person who bounced back from the impossible but everyone has a limit. I am only human and there is so much I can take. And the adrenaline issue described above makes it even more isolating because it is hard to interact with people who might want to help.


I can imagine it only too well, my friend. No one wants to listen to endless hard-luck stories, and there are many times when we hold back from social occasions because we know cheerfulness is mandatory and on that day we just can't do it. It's too exhausting. It's very isolating not to be able to show how you really feel, and I daresay that (like me) you've had 'friends' turn away from you because they just don't know what to say any more.

Please don’t feel like you have to give me some piece of helpful advice; I am further into this process than this short explanation might make it appear and I probably have already done it. Please just let me know you have read this and keep me in your thoughts. Please remember me.


No advice from me other than to keep plugging along. I assume you've accessed all the professional help there is, and that probably (again, like me) you've very often found it wanting. I too think it's helpful to see our lives as a spiritual journey, so that on our worst days we can hand our burden to a Higher Power and believe there will be some good to come out of the mess.

In my case, emotional cruelty from my parents, particularly my mother, left me instinct-injured and unable to stand up for myself. I didn't wake up to that until I was in my mid-thirties, by which time I had such a sorry history -- and so much momentum going on in a hellish direction -- that I despaired of ever putting things right. My next birthday is the big six-oh, and I've had to accept that I will never have the things my peers take for granted.

As you've found, offering compassionate advice to others from the deep well of your own suffering helps you believe it was not entirely in vain. I'm a writer, and I tell my story over and over in my fiction. I also plan to write an academic book about scapegoating in families, its causes and nightmarish effects; and I reach out to adults-abused-as-children whenever I can.

You're a writer, too. Tell it when you can and where you can. For me, that's very rarely to Other People. We need to make sense of our own histories. I have a dedicated folder in which I will occasionally pick an incident that's still bothering me and write it in detail, with all the feelings I had to repress at the time. Your poignant "please remember me" shows that you too want to create a record that maybe, some day, will explain how you wound up where you are now.

I hope you have at least one person IRL who understands, and that you'll stay with us in this Uncommon space.
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Postby DrowningAlone » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:23 pm

Thank you, Candid, for your heartfelt response. I too became curious about you from our interaction on the other thread and I read some of your other posts too. It is nice to see someone who speaks from wisdom and experience and has some content to what they say, as compared to quoting trite platitudes as a substitute.

I realize, of course, that this wisdom was born out of your own suffering and I would be very interested to hear some of what you have gone through yourself. I am so used to being the one people think of to compare themselves to and realize that they don’t really have it all that bad; it would be nice to hear from someone who can actually relate to what I have been through.

Candid wrote:I can match you point for point. Really. I won't do it here because this thread is about you.


I appreciate your not wanting to hijack this thread and make it about you. But you have my permission to do so! I am new to this forum so I don’t even know if that is my permission to give, but my point is that it’s OK with me. It’s not like I’m getting a whole lot of people responding here anyway. I think my post was either too intense or too long (or both) and might have turned some people off.

Yes, I have found that offering compassionate advice to others has been helpful. It gives meaning to all this suffering. For example, I helped one person in particular on this forum a few days ago that made me feel really good; I think my words actually may have made a difference in his life. A poster on this forum (LostNerd) sounded seriously suicidal (his post was titled “I just want to end it”) and I offered him another perspective that may have changed his trajectory. That made my day! Take a look at it if you are so inclined.

I look forward to hearing more from you. I am indeed interested in what you have to say.
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Postby Candid » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:12 pm

DrowningAlone wrote:I appreciate your not wanting to hijack this thread and make it about you. But you have my permission to do so! I am new to this forum so I don’t even know if that is my permission to give...


I think it is, but threadjacks happen all the time here from less considerate people, and I know I've done it myself before now.

I looked at LostNerd's thread and gave you a couple of thumbs-up, as well as one to Richard@DecisionSkills for pointing out that LostNerd also had a number of successes in his history. I think it's important to keep that in mind, when we've been whomped yet again and cry: "Okay, God, you've done it now. This time I'm not getting up."

I just wrote my sorry history here and lost it when I tried to post. It's hard to say what was the worst of it. Ostracism from every blood relative I have was certainly a blow, but it does at least mean mother has done her last smear campaign http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/smea ... z3V9DF4R6Y and can't hurt me any more. I hope. :? In terms of my present lifestyle, the real estate agent 'friend' who diverted rent payments while I was out of the country -- so that I lost the home I once owned outright as well as the mortgaged block of flats that was to be my retirement income -- has the most impact. I've long recovered from being raped as a teenager and the disastrous choice of intimate partners, one of whom routinely used me as a punchbag.

The person I miss most is my elder sister, who was there from the start as playmate and companion, as well as being the one to point out (as an adult) that I was the family scapegoat. That being said, she had abandoned me years earlier by retreating into mental illness, being medicated accordingly and therefore no longer able (or, I suspect, willing) to remember what went on. A long-ago therapist congratulated me for having stayed sane on the basis of mother's gaslighting alone; plenty of people with less crazymaking childhoods become schizophrenic.

That being said, the common theme to all my woes is instinct-injury and an inability even to see I had been wronged, much less respond appropriately and in a timely fashion. I'm cynical about the Personality Disorders -- seems there's one for everybody -- but I can't help noticing that my mother ticks most of the boxes for narcissism. On a bad day she still speaks in my head (my earliest memory, pre-verbal, is of her slapping me and yelling "Bad girl!") but I've got quicker at recognising her and booting her out.

I am so used to being the one people think of to compare themselves to and realize that they don’t really have it all that bad


Do they actually say that to you? That kind of validation is conspicuous by its absence in my life, and even my closest friends used to tell me it isn't that bad, I'm not hurt, they've seen me bounce back from worse, etc. I've learned self-validation (another coping skill) but it can be a tough act. And, of course, isolating.

You mentioned that your father committed suicide, and I know that has an enormous impact.
no one wanted to talk about it, and most redirected the conversation or avoided me ...

I never talked to my mother about it as I didn’t want to reopen her wounds and add more to mine.

... the concept of “hidden sorrow” and “disenfranchised grief.” There are some things in us that we are unable to tell others or we can’t articulate well. Many of these are things that society doesn’t want to hear.
~ http://www.fdlrez.com/humanservices/vainioart12.htm


I'm no stranger to what Sandra Bloom calls "the grief that dare not speak its name" http://www.sanctuaryweb.com/PDFs_new/Bl ... 20name.pdf and I know you have a heavy burden, too: your father, your sister, your wife. I see a lot of intergenerational factors in people's family histories, and I wonder what can stop it. My two sisters and I voted with our uteri; only my brother -- the long-awaited golden child -- has reproduced. He's gay (I've always seen that as poetic justice) but was sperm donor for a lesbian couple who live a long way from my parents. They have one grandchild from four offspring, they rarely see her and are certainly never left alone with her.

You and I, my friend, have departed from the society that "doesn't want to hear" and, on this forum at least, are willing to acknowledge the deep pain of being human. We are both functioning, and can see some value in the worst of our experiences. I wonder whether the notion of having chosen it sticks in your craw as it so often does in mine. I would also like to know, if you want to tell me, whether any family members are still part of your life and the level of support they offer.
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Postby Candid » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:39 pm

Some definitions you may not have come across before:
Validation: http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/toxi ... z3V9DF4R6Y
Gaslighting: http://lightshouse.org/lights-blog/gasl ... z3V9DF4R6Y
Scapegoat (and Golden Child): http://www.lightshouse.org/the-scapegoa ... z3V9m2Lfm4

The forum has a three-URL limit ... and most of my posts are wa-a-a-a-y too long anyway!
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Postby DrowningAlone » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:04 am

Candid...

OMG! I have never heard the term “gaslighting” before but this is EXACTLY what I have experienced. You just taught me something – thank you.

I have so much I want to say about this (and other things you posted) but I don’t have time tonight because I am under a deadline for something related to my work that I need to attend to. Unfortunately I need to work even when I don’t want to – I need the money! I mentioned that I had business partner of mine embezzle all my money a few years ago. I was quite financially secure at the time – he stole over $2 million from me – but now that is gone and I live month to month so I need to get to work!

Also – and I don’t know what proper protocol is here – I would like to respond in a private message if I could. I am somewhat of a public figure; I am not famous or anything like that, but well known enough that I am uncomfortable going into certain details about my life in a public forum. Throughout all my personal difficulties I have managed (somehow!) to not let it affect my professional life and I need to keep it that way. Is continuing this discussion outside of the forum appropriate or is this considered bad taste?

I hope my even asking this doesn't dissuade other people from responding here. I hope people still respond! I am happy to talk about most things on this forum; there are just some details that are a bit too personal to post here.
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