JuliusFawcett wrote:Good always wins, love dissolves fear
Well, Hi Julius,
Well, anyway, to concede something to your Argument, I'd feel mean-spirited to chase you away, for being so wrong, but since you are obviously so well intentioned, like a naïve child, I feel it my Moral Duity to continue.
First, Good Does Not Always Win. yes, historians usually record that way... because History is Written by the Winners. The losers die in silence with nobody to take up their cause. Just look at the conflict between Rome and Carthage. for the Hundred Years War between Carthage and Rome, the most popular Roman Politicians took up the line that "Carthage Must Die (reminding us somewhat of modern Iranian Declarations) and that if Carthage were ever successfully invaded, well, no effort would be made to rehabilitate the Population... to Win their Hearts and Minds... that Rome would Instigate a Program to "Salt The Earth".. to make their Agricultural Ground infertile. Well, it Worked.
Rome hit upon the one tactic that would destroy Carthage forever.. even if they could offer up insurgent opposition to the Roman Legions, what good would it do if they had no Food?
So, Rome Won and Carthage Lost. Does that Really Mean that Rome was Good and that Carthage was bad? Notice that under Roman Jurisdiction, Higher Education at the University Level seemed to disappear. Roman's had no 'Museum' or University, as the Greek Civilization had had before them. One has to wonder how they were able to engineer such fine Highways ( some still exist today... in better condition than some modern highways), and such splendid Aqueducts... maybe they simply Out Sourced this kind of Engineering Prowess to Greek Slaves, who still had not forgotten everything they Learned while the World was still Civilized.
Anyway, there is plenty of room to argue that Rome defeating Carthage was not exactly an instance of Good conquering
Evil. Carthage had been the Older Society. Rome the invasive upstart, using Violence to get what it wanted. Carthage was clearly only trying to defend itself. It seemed that Rome wanted what it had, and it wanted what Carthage had too, and for that to happen... "Carthage Must Die". Was this Really Good?
If Carthage had successfully defended against Rome and had created a Larger Society, intertwined between Rome and Carthage, to cover the Self Interests of Everybody.... Might Not History have turned out Better.
Indeed, History after the Complete Roman, "Salt the Earth" Victory may be kind of equivalent to the Nazis having won the War and having taken Jurisdiction over the World.
Julius... Is That What You think about when you say "Good Always Wins"?
Well, to put the argument more into your reach, if you are not comfortable with Ancient History, does EVERY INNOCENT VICTUM of a Crime who Struggles and Fights Back but gets Killed easily to the jeers and laughter of his Murderers... well, weill, ARE YOU ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THEY ARE EVIL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LOSERS, AND THAT THE CRUDE AND BARBARIC INSTIGATORS ARE THE GOOD ONES... only just because they were the ones that won?
If that is what you think,. maybe you should get a Job of the.... I forget his name.... but he is now very famous in America for being a "Winner"... and for being Very Happy.
Just Look, Julius, at the Moral Company you are keeping.
You could be My Friend. But you chose to side with... well, with whoever Wins. YOU SIMPLY HAVE NO PRINCIPLES! Well, except to do whatever is best for you... and screw the rest of the World. Under such conditions you would not be much of a friend, would you?
