Urge to have revenge

Postby Ashwin » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:25 pm

whenever someone does something to me I have a strong urge to have revenge (do the same to that person or something equal to what he did) untill I feel that what he did to me is equal to what I did to him.... And then I feel alright.
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Postby instilledconfidence » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:27 pm

It is human nature to react to a negative situation. However, reacting by "getting even" is not healthy for you. Revenge does not fix what made you angry, it definitely does not help the situation get fixed if that is even possible, and it should bring feelings of remorse on your part. Instead of acting out and trying to get revenge, you should try to look at what happened as a life experience, figure out what you may have learned from it so you don't repeat that event, and then let it go. Revenge from you only lowers yourself to their level and I would think you are better than that, I hope.
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Postby kavya shrivastava » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:38 am

of corse every second person on earth feels the same way as u do... ... encountering after such a situation, close ur eyes and think about the situation, cry if u wish to and if u still can't control ur anger stay alone for sometime or run a straight path or exercise... ... it really helps... ...always remember an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind... ... whenever anyone does such a thing show them that u don't care and u r strong enough!
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Postby Leo Volont » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:20 pm

Ashwin wrote:whenever someone does something to me I have a strong urge to have revenge (do the same to that person or something equal to what he did) untill I feel that what he did to me is equal to what I did to him.... And then I feel alright.


Someday somebody will see this Pattern in you, and will decide it would just be better to 'push you in front of a bus'.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:57 am

The ego is never a happy choice of thought patterns, surrender, forgiveness and peace have grace
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:50 am

JuliusFawcett wrote:The ego is never a happy choice of thought patterns, surrender, forgiveness and peace have grace


Yes Julius I think you must be absolutely Right, that is, in the Long Term, that is Long Enough for this guy to Finally Register within His Own Mind that he has a Serious Problem. But, looking at it from personal experience, this guy will be Long Dead before he confesses to having an Anger Problem. So, if the Fates would have it that way... THAT HE ACCIDENTALLY FALL BEFORE AN ONCOMING BUS.... well, as unfortunate as the untimely Death of another Human Being would be, still, the CERTAIN STOP of an ONGOING EVIL would certainly Count in that Great Equation that Attempts to Balance Good with Evil in todays decidedly secular and amoral World.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:49 pm

Good always wins, love dissolves fear
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Postby Leo Volont » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:44 am

JuliusFawcett wrote:Good always wins, love dissolves fear


"Love dissolves Fear". Really,

There is a book..."Human Smoke".... it kind of tracks the documented lives, through correspondence, of people in Germany, and people outside of Germany with enough political power to effect the people in Germany... from about 1921 to 1941.

Toward the end of the book, this nice Jewish Couple commits Suicide .... what? Out of Hate or Hopelessness... Utter disappear? But LOVE certainly was never an option.

When the Civilized World Dissolves and it ALL turns into a Jungle Out There, well, HATE packs a much Harder Punch than Love.

Look at how many Civilizations collapsed into Chaos and a huge Contest in Violence? Loving People did not last through even the First Five Minutes of Civilization Collapse. and THAT is exactly what we are looking at Today. All the People you successfully instruct on being Full of Love, will be the First to Go.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:27 pm

"Toward the end of the book, this nice Jewish Couple commits Suicide .... what? Out of Hate or Hopelessness... Utter disappear? But LOVE certainly was never an option."

Yes, if we would like to live, rather than commit suicide because of hopelessness or despair, it is important to focus on what we love. Love gives us the reason to carry on.
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Postby Leo Volont » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:10 pm

JuliusFawcett wrote:"Toward the end of the book, this nice Jewish Couple commits Suicide .... what? Out of Hate or Hopelessness... Utter disappear? But LOVE certainly was never an option."

Yes, if we would like to live, rather than commit suicide because of hopelessness or despair, it is important to focus on what we love. Love gives us the reason to carry on.


Hi Julius,

Christ carried on... Out of Love... or Principle.... He was both Loving and Very Ethical and Moral and so we can never know exactly from where His motives sprang. BUT, what did that Get Him?

Sometimes a Discerning Intellect KNOWS when enough is enough. When HATE has a Clear Majority and has one totally surrounded and is closing in, not just for the Kill, but for a tortuous and elaborated Kill... a Kill of a Thousand Needles... well...


When does Love know when to Quit and to simply give up to the Overwhelming Dominance of Evil on the Field of Battle. Yes, it is just One Battle, and the War between Good and Evil is not over. BUT, on personal terms, a reasonable and discerning person can see that, as God had not Intervened to Save the Situation by Miracle at any appropriate time before, that, well, God seems to be Staying Out of It.

Hey, Julius, if Not Even God Cares.... why should anybody else?
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:42 pm

You're convinced you are right, well done, where has that choice got you?
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Postby Leo Volont » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:59 pm

JuliusFawcett wrote:You're convinced you are right, well done, where has that choice got you?


Oh, interesting!

It is always good to see that the people one takes time to speak to are actually Thinking about what they say.

And YES, you do seem to have a Point. In coming to what I think is an Informed Judgment that all of the Really Powerful Angels and Saints and have really just Backed Off from the World Scene... with the Justification that WE HUMANS have been Warned Repeatedly and frankly kept on with not only the Same Degree of Evil, but with Evil Multiplied,,, as though to deliberately flout the Divine Warnings. hey, do you blame them?

But, YES, I noticed.

Am I REALLY SUPPOSED TO IGNORE WHAT I SEE AS THE TRUTH, because it doesn't make me feel good?

Julius, You have your Priorities All Mixed Up if you think feeling good means more than Acting upon the Perceived Truth of Things.

Look how Jesus ended up. Where Did His Beliefs Get Him?

Oh, but I am forgetting... you might think you are superior to Jesus... well, that is perhaps possible... I am continually 'second-guessing' many of the Decisions of Jesus. But I am very cautious and circumvent about it. There are Two Things you can count on when thinking about Jesus -- he was neither stupid nor even in the least way given to immorality within his deliberate intention.

But apparently you just want to Feel Good, cranking along your Plans and Intentions, whether they fit the Truth or not. The Roman presiding over the Crucifixion of Christ, wondered, during it all, "What is the Truth". he saw the Situation as a Conflict between Competing Special Interests, and, honestly, I think, did the best that he could. But YOUR Special Interest seems to be Just Yourself. What Makes You Happy. Is it True? Well, you would like to Think So, but it would ONLY HURT YOUR SELF INTEREST TO LOOK AT ANYTHING TOO CLOSELY.

Really? I might not be Happy, but I can Live with myself. You, well, you are Happy, but at such a Price... I don't know how you can live with yourself.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:52 pm

You think that you wouldn't like to feel good?

You think that feeling good and radiating that out to people around you, with smiles, with hugs, with humour wouldn't be good for you AND them?

Evidently you have not had enough of suffering, and I accept that, I was in that position too, I made myself suffer and the people around me, until I learned that it was a choice.
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Postby Leo Volont » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:46 pm

JuliusFawcett wrote:You think that you wouldn't like to feel good?

You think that feeling good and radiating that out to people around you, with smiles, with hugs, with humour wouldn't be good for you AND them?

Evidently you have not had enough of suffering, and I accept that, I was in that position too, I made myself suffer and the people around me, until I learned that it was a choice.


Dear Julius!

Oh, My... you don't understand me at all.

Of Course, OUT IN SOCIETY... well... on the Island here, I am known as the HAPPIEST AND FRIENDLIEST Person on the Island... that is, In Their World. Everyone seems to know my name and everyone shouts out greetings, no matter where I go.

You see, in Learning Anger Management, I ALSO learned about How to Behave Well in Public. It Works!

But THIS is an Intellectual Forum. We get to be Honest Here, right?

OH! I GET IT NOW! YOU are not being Honest! You Shove Aside your Honesty for the Sake of Being Happy.... rather than being Sincere you would rather be some Smiling zombie no matter what kind of Serious Situation Presented Itself. that would be Great if you were on the Job as a Customer Service Rep, a Waiter, a Cab Driver, any such thing. "Smile and the Customer is Always Right"... and all of that.

But, INTELLECTUALLY!? My God! You Can't be Serious about actually THINKING on your own Time about tossing aside any Ideal and Every Ideal that would get in the Way of you being just some Grinning Smile Boy?

but maybe that is all you want to be... a Grinning Smile Boy. Well, they say it takes all kinds. Maybe you are Happier than I am, But at Least I Have My Pride.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:54 pm

Great, you have your pride, I trust it keeps you happy :)
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