Rapid Inductions: read and post here

#510

Postby DeathMagnetic » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:53 pm

[quote="Anthony Jacquin"][quote="DeathMagnetic"][quote="Anthony Jacquin"]Nice work.

Remembering that you can springboard from one phenomena to another is useful to.

Ant[/quote]

What do you mean?

andy[/quote]

Link the height or termination of one bit of hypnotic phenomena to another. 'And when your hand touches your face you will laugh like two pigs laughing together' etc.

Anthony[/quote]

So 'And when your hand touches your face' and 'you will laugh like two pigs laughing together' are both PHS? So you are linking them together...?

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:25 pm

Yes. Using the natural moments that occur within any set of suggestions. i.e hand lifts,, hand moves, hand touches face being three distinct moments.

With catalpesy you have the advantage of them being in something of a bind unable to move until you say so, so you might as well link movement to not being able to do something else.


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Postby DeathMagnetic » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:49 pm

Ok I got it. Cheers mate that was very helpful!

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#513

Postby kevsheldrake » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:36 pm

DeathMagnetic wrote:
kevsheldrake wrote:or you can tell them that they'll have an insistent urge to do x which won't go away and they'll find a reason for it that doesn't include hypnosis.


'to do x which wont go away' By x you mean the PHS?


Yes.

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#514

Postby Makata » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:00 am

This instant/rapid induction utilizes a pattern interrupt, as well as pacing and leading.

So, as the drunken, malevolent basta...the subject, AKA: your client, is within conversational distance, you hold your hands in front of you, much like when doing magnetic palms, except your palms are facing outward. You pace and lead your subject using congruent dialogue and vocal tonality, with your intention being one of progressively relaxing your subject, calibrating in regards to his focus and intention as you go.

As you do this, using your open palms as a fascination device, you drop one of your open hands to your side, in a slightly cupped hand formation. As your subject begins to encroach, you proceed to apply an open-handed cupped hand slap to the area along his jawline, while saying with full and focused attention, the word "SLEEP".

Alternatively, you could also use a hooking punch, or a hooking palm strike--but your primary zone of concentration is the area along his jawline, from the hinge area to just before the tip of his jaw. The combination of utilizing a pattern interrupt and forcefully pronouncing "SLEEP" should evoke an immediate sonambulistic state. That said, this technique is only the entering wedge into a very deep state of trance for your client--one should feel free to apply any and all deepeners, as is necessary, in order to achieve sonambulism. Remember to keep saying "SLEEP" with full and focused intention, as you deepen the client's state of profound trance.

Please note: this induction is only appropriate for street/impromptu situations (rather than in clinical/stage settings), where immediate provocative therapy is required. Please exercise your best judgement at all times, and use this method with all health/safety and legal concerns taken in consideration.

All best with this, and good luck! :twisted:

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Postby Makata » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:16 am

Makata wrote: Please note: this induction is only appropriate for street/impromptu situations (rather than in clinical/stage settings), where immediate provocative therapy is required. Please exercise your best judgement at all times, and use this method with all health/safety and legal concerns taken in consideration.


Please note: If you think I'm actually "being serious" with all the above...well, you're only partly right! :twisted: :lol:

As much as is humanly possible, please remember...it's probably not a particularly sound general business practice to go cracking your (paying) clients/audience members in the jaw! Just my guess, but...I have a strong hunch I'm right on this front. Let's say that it's the wisdom of my other-than-conscious mind that's giving me this particular insight... :wink:

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Postby kevsheldrake » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:25 am

Okaay. Let's focus on rapid inductions that don't involve any physical contact.

"I will click my fingers three times..."

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Postby Makata » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:03 am

Obviously, I wrote all the above with my tongue firmly planted in cheek...but it's interesting to me that I have heard of the concept of a pattern interrupt before in tactical h2h combatives/street survival training circles!

There's a story I once heard of a Mafia enforcer that used to ask his targets a question as the set-up before he would do his thing...close up, in person. Indeed, the thing I posted above is actually my take on a concept that a UK-based self-defense expert/former doorman named Geoff Thompson calls "The Fence", where you control distance and range from the bad guy with your body language/posture (never assuming a formal "fighting stance", just using normal, everyday gestures and stances), use of your voice (how you mask your intent: misdirection), and how you use your hands. This gives you time and space to verbally de-escalate the possible imminent violence, and, failing in this, give you the option of striking first (and seizing full control of the situation).

Geoff T. also uses/teaches a pattern interrupt in the form of asking a question ("Hey mate, what time is it?") before launching a pre-emptive attack, then uses super-dominant/authoritarian dialogue and body language to control the situation after he has, um, "established sonambulism in his subject".

If, as Steven Heller once wrote, all human communication is grounded in hypnosis/trance states, then the hypnotic operators in all of the above should be pretty clear, yes? I'm a newbie, and I see 'em! Shock inductions into deep trance, indeed. :wink:

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Postby popposs » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:57 am

what do i do after i hypnotized myself?????????/ its really boring. i just levitate my arm and stuff. what else can i do?
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:00 am

What do you want to do? Why did you learn self hypnosis? Was it because you had a purpose other than finding out if you could experience it? If so then revisit that.

Link arm levitation to the next phenomena you want to experience or the changes you want to make.

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Postby kevsheldrake » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:51 pm

popposs wrote:what do i do after i hypnotized myself?????????/ its really boring. i just levitate my arm and stuff. what else can i do?


Suggest to yourself that you will feel the most amazing you have ever felt for exactly 10 seconds. Maybe then suggest to yourself that you will revisit past memories with a new objective, optimistic and resourceful self, learn from them and then leave any negative emotion you may feel for them and bring the new learnings back with you to the present.

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Postby Hypno_newb » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:51 pm

My second thread bump of the day. Let me just say that 36 pages is an awful lot to read through...but I got there in the end.

Some really great information in these pages. If nothing else, it has instilled me with a great deal of confidence that I can actually hypnotise someone (setting myself up for a great big fall here? lol ).

Thank you to all that have contributed to this thread!
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Postby NeMiSiS » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:48 am

Hi Guys

The thread has become very long! I've read through most of the pages. I got 2 questions.
* How does it change your approach regarding rapid inductions if somebody says that he has been hypnotised before?
* Can somebody post the Magnetic Hands and Magnetic Fingers Inductions?
I've studied quite a bit of Mentalism and recodnised the Magenetic Fingers as one of the the 'mental experiments'. I'd like to try my hand at guessing what an Magnetic Fingers Induction looks like.
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Postby NeMiSiS » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:34 am

Please correct me and give any pointers on how I could improve it.

* Ask subject to interlock fingers.
* Ask subject to extend forefingers.
* Said in command tone and increasingly softer:
  * Focus on the space between your fingers.
  * As you start to focus more intensely on the space between your fingers you'll notice that everything else starts to fade away and your fingers are becoming like 2 magnets that are being attracted by one another.
  * As your fingers move together your eyes start to get very doopy drowsy and sleepy.
  * The magnetic pull between your fingers are becoming stronger now, your eyes will close[if they havent already] and you will enter a deep deep sleep the moment your fingers touch.
* Either touch hands and force the subjects fingers to touch delivering the SLEEP command. Or continue "Droopy Drowsy, sleepy talk" and deliver sleep upon fingers touching.

What do you guys think of that induction? :-P
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Postby kevsheldrake » Sat May 01, 2010 10:01 am

NeMiSiS wrote:What do you guys think of that induction? :-P


I hope you won't think it cheeky if I suggest you buy a copy of RIP. :)

Nothing needs to 'fade away', nothing needs to become 'droopy drowsy and sleepy'; be nice and elicit a state of compliance, tell them to put their hands out, hands clasped, elbows bent, index fingers up about an inch apart like this, now look at the gap between them because in a moment they will touch. That's right. Magnets on the fingertips.

When they touch you can allow your eyes to close. If you see signs of trance, then simply push on and assume trance. If you don't, then tell them to take a deep breath in and out, open their eyes and come back (and do another set piece).

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