Depressed and Suicidal

Zanoni wrote:Suicide is acceptable in my eyes. I agree with everyone else that life doesn't matter.

What's the problem?

It isn't about the extent to which suicide is acceptable. We discussed this back when you were Bod or Candy or Cpt.

My disagreement is with your thought process which you place on others caring, that it is a key factor in justifying suicide, i.e. if no one cares = exit life. The converse is that if someone does care do not exit life, i.e. if your Twitter results showed 100% cared then suicide would not be the path.

My point is your Twitter experiment is irrelevant. 100% care or not, the results are irrelevant to whether or not a person end their life.

So you believe one can walk through this world having no one to care about him or her and still enjoy the fruits of life? (Whatever they are!) So in every day affairs one gets treated like a lesser being (because they don't care) and somehow this person manages to enjoy life.

What have you been smoking?

Zanoni wrote:So you believe one can walk through this world having no one to care about him or her and still enjoy the fruits of life? (Whatever they are!) So in every day affairs one gets treated like a lesser being (because they don't care) and somehow this person manages to enjoy life.

What have you been smoking?

Have you given anyone a reason to care about you? Is there at least one other person in your life to whom you pay attention and listen intently with interest?

Yes my boss JM. (Won't mention her full name)

We have office meetings every other day. I listen to her intently and with interest. We dicuss work matters.

Zanoni wrote:So you believe one can walk through this world having no one to care about him or her and still enjoy the fruits of life?

Absolutely. Plenty of people live such lives, lives in the service of others or some cause. I realize with your history that you can't comprehend such a blissful, harmonious existence.

Can you name 5 people like that?

I'll give you Zen Monks and people in religion. Perhaps some homeless people.

Who else?

Zanoni wrote: I'll give you Zen Monks and people in religion. Perhaps some homeless people.

Besides zen monks, religion and some homeless, you will find plenty of individuals that have such understanding working as doctors, lawyers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters, paramedics, first responders, non-profits, etc. etc. It really is not the profession, but professions involving service do seem to attract people that recognize to a greater extent that the world isn't about them.

Yes I agree with you. But that's not what i asked. Obviously people care about that list of people. I asked for people living today who other people don't care about and yet still have fulfilled lives. Right now we are up to homeless people and monks. Your turn!

Zanoni wrote: Obviously people care about that list of people. I asked for people living today who other people don't care about and yet still have fulfilled lives. Right now we are up to homeless people and monks.

Same as some Zen monks, some religious people, and some homeless, some of the people working in the professions I listed lead fulfilled lives while NOT caring if others do or do not care about them in return.

I realize given the importance you place on others caring about you, that it is difficult for you to comprehend that some people that are not zen monks also understand the world is not about them and don't need others to care about them to live a fulfilled, enjoyable life.

So these fire man are not married etc...?

Do they get paid and by who?

We're talking past each other. Forget about it. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

Zanoni wrote:We're talking past each other. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

I understand that you get that there exists some people, Zen Monks that live fulfilling lives without the need to post on Twitter whether or not others care about them, because they live a harmonious existence not driven by the need that others care for them.

You don't need to be a Zen Monk to have a similar outlook. You can get paid, be married, etc. yet still not be a self-centered, ego centric individual that is driven by a Twitter post in determining if others care about them.

I don't want to get married.

The point of the twitter poll was to shed light on other people and their mentality. I wanted to see their true nature.

Zanoni wrote:The point of the twitter poll was to shed light on other people and their mentality. I wanted to see their true nature.

-1- you decided to share your Twitter info in a thread a person started saying they are suicidal. So you didn't just want to see the true nature of people. You want to use this information to reinforce your own misery and misguided world view.

-2- a Twitter poll doesn't show true nature past how people interact with social media. There is a huge difference between responding to a troll poll on Twitter and actual behavior.

If you want to see true human nature, go to a region struck by disaster. Watch as people from all over the world come to help and rebuild. Watch the entire community coming together to help each other. Watch as criminals take advantage of the disaster as true human nature has both positives and negatives. Quite different than a bullsh*t Twitter poll, actual human nature is uplifting, preferring to build rather than destroy, preferring to help rather than harm.

But there are some, trolls such as yourself that want to destroy, that are miserable and want others to join in their misery.