Weed withdrawal or? BMP, Freezing, Urge to pee

biohack9 wrote:I think the problems start with weed abuse and daily/chronic use. I doubt infrequent usage of say once every week or two would cause this symptoms but we’re all different. I had big problems with caffeine addiction as well and never used it past 9am, but daily. Now I hate all drugs including alcohol.

I believe grade is just as important, if not more so, as frequency. Some people have had really serious paws issues because of high-potency cartridges after only some occasions.

Brokethehabit wrote:

biohack9 wrote:I feel that. I’m embarrassed for so many years of my life wasted and so many problems I caused for myself.

How long have you been clean?

Almost 3 months. My record is 3.5 months last time but that was a couple of years ago. This time I’m going the distance.

Brokethehabit wrote:

biohack9 wrote:I think the problems start with weed abuse and daily/chronic use. I doubt infrequent usage of say once every week or two would cause this symptoms but we’re all different. I had big problems with caffeine addiction as well and never used it past 9am, but daily. Now I hate all drugs including alcohol.

I believe grade is just as important, if not more so, as frequency. Some people have had really serious paws issues because of high-potency cartridges after only some occasions.

Lots of variables but my extreme concentrate use paws isn’t any different than when I was vaping flower only. I never combusted so that might introduce other variables as well. Overall I think time sober between sessions and tolerance and using it first thing morning and last thing at night is the worst.

In the end it comes down to dopamine downregulation and endocannabinoid receptor saturation.

@biohack9
Nice man, you sound totally committed. It's all in the head. How is it going?

biohack9 wrote:using it first thing morning and last thing at night is the worst

Couldn't agree more. I was really surprised when back then one day I found myself with a joint in hand smoking at 8 in the morning ...knew I was in trouble.

Brokethehabit wrote:@biohack9
Nice man, you sound totally committed. It's all in the head. How is it going?

It’s a struggle, but things have turned for the better with sleep at least. I have no choice if I want to improve my life, I’ve tried this too many times in the past and gone through the same bs. This time I want to see what’s on the other side of 6 months, a year, two years. And if I hate where I am then, I won’t care anymore and just enjoy getting blasted lol

Brokethehabit wrote:

biohack9 wrote:using it first thing morning and last thing at night is the worst

Couldn't agree more. I was really surprised when back then one day I found myself with a joint in hand smoking at 8 in the morning ...knew I was in trouble.

It was always morning until night for me, but it made me super productive and fit. Now it’s the opposite so hoping the dopamine comes back as well as my fitness and productivity. I feel like a bag of dirt these days. Gained 15lbs. Last time I gained the same, then after 3.5 months started vaping again because of a new girl, and got super fit and lost the weight lol

How are you doing? How long in?

@biohack9
2 years 2 months in here. I think I've outlasted paws. No more symptoms.
The first 13 months was hellish though... never want to go down that road again.

Brokethehabit wrote:@biohack9
2 years 2 months in here. I think I've outlasted paws. No more symptoms.
The first 13 months was hellish though... never want to go down that road again.

Oh yeah that’s right! I mistaken your name I recall now. And so much respect to you bro and much appreciation for your posts and feedback. I hope to be in your shoes in 2 years saying the same praises! Nice work man!

biohack9 wrote:It’s a struggle, but things have turned for the better with sleep at least. I have no choice if I want to improve my life, I’ve tried this too many times in the past and gone through the same bs. This time I want to see what’s on the other side of 6 months, a year, two years. And if I hate where I am then, I won’t care anymore and just enjoy getting blasted lol

That was quick with your sleep recovery. After quitting cold turkey I could sleep 10-15 minutes at a time and woke up in panic gasping for air. I needed 16 months to finally have uninterrupted nights with restful awakenings.

As for hating sobriety and getting blasted... I think we need to do more than flick a lighter to make life enjoyable and euphoric. It's easy to make life miserable and complain and ultimately substitute real happiness with an addiction. If you find your passions you won't have to get blasted (by weed) ever again.

Oh don’t get me wrong my sleep still sucks but in comparison to the first 2 months and especially first month it’s night and day. Basically I sleep fine and deep for about 5 hours now then I wake up can’t sleep for a couple hours and then go into rem cycles of shallow sleep and dreaming. I still have fatigue all day every day but at least no more night sweats. It seems to be mostly mental battle now but also with major physical symptoms like my body doesn’t recover from the sleep.

I was so much happier and living a much more fulfilling life with cannabis and caffeine but just abused and had some side effects. I realize I’m in paws which is why I’m going the distance but if in 2 years I’m not the same or better than when using cannabis I know I need meds and will always choose canna over pharma.

I wish I had had 5 hours of sleep around month 3.

biohack9 wrote:major physical symptoms like my body doesn’t recover from the sleep.

What do you mean by that?

You have all the chance to have a fulfilling life without cannabis...it's just more effort, I was trying to make that point above.

When did you start sleeping better? 6 months? This makes me think I’m recovering quickly but I’m also protecting dopamine dumps as much as possible and started semen retention when I quit weed at the same time which is something I never tried on previous attempts. Same with quitting coffee so I think it’s helping.

I meant that even though I sleep, I feel like my body doesn’t recover, muscles feel tired and sore even on days I don’t exercise. I still feel half baked too, just brain fog and light weed feeling of tingles.

I know what you mean about sobriety and definitely agree, it’s like my life has been in a cloud for years now and I’m starting to feel clear and facing demons of the past. However I also had some health issues including mental that I feel that the weed was masking. And perhaps it was keeping some inflammation down in my body from some serious injuries. So I will continue feeling broken for as long as possible, but I won’t put myself through intense suffering for years if I don’t see substantial progress.

It’s still so early in my recovery, so not overthinking things and will reevaluate next spring and summer. I honestly don’t even think I would enjoy weed anymore lol

My sleep improved gradually. When I woke up I could go back to sleep the only problem was that every time I woke up I was in panic mode, disturbed, pulse up, feeling whacked. This got less and less frequent although the waves always brought them back temporarily. Up until month 13 I always woke with a buzzing head in the morning.

As for harbouring mental issues, you strike me as being totally fine. Look, this period is extremely demanding and you may find a number of weird issues come and go until you get through. After half a year I didn't let myself be fooled. When weird symptoms appeared, I just ignored them bc I knew they were temporary.

Thanks bro, I know it’s temporary. But I’m getting older and have some ptsd from working in the emerg services for years as well as some other bs, and of course the shift work that went along with it, which is why I became dependent on the weed. I’m good now, but i’m still broken physically and mentally, which is why i’m leaving the option open, sometimes people need medicine in order to actually enjoy life. Problem is it became abuse and dependency and just a bandaid. Im trying sobriety for the first time in over a decade, but there has gotta be some significant progress and benefits after a year or two, otherwise there simply isn’t any point in living for me and i would rather just go back to what has worked for me for some years. If it wasn’t for cannabis I would likely not even be here. I respect it as a medication just not abusing it.