nutrition strategy

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:54 pm

Do you know Turkish iskender kebap? It's sliced meat with tomato sauce and sliced pita. So delicious. I will not eat it for years maybe forever unfortunately..

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:55 pm

I hope my post didn't annoy you as a vegan. Just can't sleep and wanted to develop conversation. .

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:58 pm

You seem like an expert..may I ask if mayonnaise is healthy? I know it's unhealthy but is it on the certainly avoid list?

**Posts:** 2958 · by **quietvoice** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:04 pm

desperate788 wrote:Eating only vegetables and fruits is odd

Only because 95% of those around you are of that same mindset.

Minds can be changed.

**Posts:** 2958 · by **quietvoice** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:11 pm

desperate788 wrote:You seem like an expert..may I ask if mayonnaise is healthy? I know it's unhealthy but is it on the certainly avoid list?

There are five cultural choices that were made over time that degraded man's health to the degree that we see it now:

-1- using fire to cook his food. This is the big one, because it leads to the next four.
-2- eating animals.
-3- eating food that man is not biologically adapted to eat (grains, beans).
-4- processing his food.
-5- using chemicals to grow food, and using chemicals in his food.

Where do you think that mayonnaise fits in this picture?

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:13 pm

A balanced diet including animal products with fruits and vegetables is best I think. Are vegans healthier people?

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:16 pm

I think I will go crazy if I exclude all those 5 from my diet..what else to eat. I think that would make me sick. Just veggies and fruits.

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:18 pm

You say man's health degraded but men live much longer at post industrial era..

**Posts:** 2958 · by **quietvoice** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:19 pm

desperate788 wrote:A balanced diet including animal products with fruits and vegetables is best I think. Are vegans healthier people?

Well, there's junk-food vegans, there's cooked-food vegans, and there's raw food vegans. Only not eating meat is not a cure-all if you don't address the other concerns, but it's a step in the right direction.

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:21 pm

Maybe I must adapt eat to live don't live to eat principle in my life. But I just can't. Food is a very important part of my life.

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:24 pm

quietvoice wrote:
desperate788 wrote:A balanced diet including animal products with fruits and vegetables is best I think. Are vegans healthier people?

Well, there's junk-food vegans, there's cooked-food vegans, and there's raw food vegans. Only not eating meat is not a cure-all if you don't address the other concerns, but it's a step in the right direction.

Anyways cold beer and a pizza is always good

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:27 pm

quietvoice wrote:
desperate788 wrote:A balanced diet including animal products with fruits and vegetables is best I think. Are vegans healthier people?

Well, there's junk-food vegans, there's cooked-food vegans, and there's raw food vegans. Only not eating meat is not a cure-all if you don't address the other concerns, but it's a step in the right direction.

Being a vegan then avoiding even cooked veggies..I think that's insane

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:30 pm

I used to believe what we eat strongly effects what we are but lately I don't think so..I think food is not so important .

**Posts:** 2958 · by **quietvoice** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:37 am

desperate788 wrote:I think that's insane

If it's insane to feel naturally good, then so be it.

**Posts:** 41697 · by **desperate788** » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:44 am

I think eating only raw fruits and veggies would make a person I'll. ..just my opinion..don't have enough info about good nutrition..

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