You Don’t Have to Be Happy to Not Be Angry

Postby Leo Volont » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:50 am

This is an Anger Management Page. Our goal here, may I presume, is to discuss ways and means of preventing angry outbursts; you know, those ugly episodes that cause Angry People to be referred to Anger Management Therapy. Good Anger Management only requires that we find a way of ‘keeping the lid on’. Once we can stay calm like everyone else in the room, well, we have done our Job (and no small Job is that, as many of us can testify).

Yes, sometimes the reason we blow up is because we are interpreting Reality in some mistaken or exaggerated or delusionally negative way, and if only we come to a more likely or more rational interpretation of events, then we would find that we have no solidly valid reason that could provoke our anger in the first place. So, yes, it is valid to evaluate our perceptions and our interpretations of our perceptions -- to do Reality Checks on our Thinking, as they say. So of course we encourage people to do that here.

But I find that some people on the fringe want to take Exaggeration and Delusion and carry it off into the Other Direction – to Pretend things are Positive, when they are really not, and to Exaggerate the Good in Things, when they are not very good at all, and to constantly focus on the Delusion that everything is really quite okay and that there are no negatives in Life that require our ‘serious’ attention, as being serious would only be interrupting our Perpetual State of Happiness.

Well, I am alarmed that we here should ever encourage people into deliberately taking false or mistaken Views of Reality. Is promoting Self Deception EVER a valid path to take in Anger Management?. Well, Extreme Cases could be said to call for Extreme Measures, and so I suppose that if a new Client were to login and complain of constant homicidal rage, then I suppose the “Pretend You Are In a Bed of Roses” Therapy might be called for… but only as a Stop Gap – an Emergency Measure to prevent Slaughter and Mayhem. But when we could stabilize and calm down the New Client, well, we would have to eventually wean him back into Reality. I think it would be unethical to simply leave people in a state of self-delusion. Eventually Good Mental Health requires that people be able to Cope in the Real World, and that requires that people readily deal with the Bad as well as with the Good, with no undue reluctance or hesitation. As the Saying goes, “one must take the good with the bad”.

But by insisting, here, on our Pages, that An Uninterrupted Happiness is some kind of important or even achievable goal in Anger Management, we cause our Clients to feel guilty about dealing with their real ‘problems’ (as they must see it as Negative and an Unhappy Thing even to recognize it as a ‘Problem’), and not only will they become reluctant to address their real problems, but they will learn to avoid the unpleasant, procrastinate and even ignore worsening situations in their Lives – which could adversely affect their Careers or Relationships.

We need to give responsible advice.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:14 am

Are we all happy to be alive?

Is everything else a delusion?
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Postby Leo Volont » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:41 am

JuliusFawcett wrote:Are we all happy to be alive?

Is everything else a delusion?



I hope you are delighted then with your next tooth ache.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:35 am

I accept it as a message to me to love myself more ie eat the right amount of healthy food, drink the right amount of healthy drinks, visit the dentist a healthy amount of times, clean my teeth in a healthy way.
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Postby Leo Volont » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:21 am

JuliusFawcett wrote:I accept it as a message to me to love myself more ie eat the right amount of healthy food, drink the right amount of healthy drinks, visit the dentist a healthy amount of times, clean my teeth in a healthy way.


In other words, pain makes you "unhappy" enough to modify your actions and to create new plans for the future in order that you may reach the condition of being happy again.

You, know, Julius, if you play with words and tangle them up so that they no longer really mean anything, and that is what you are doing with the word 'happiness', then you are stuck with making these convoluted and un-intuitive explanations (I am continuously Happy because I am Happy Just to be alive, HOWEVER, when gripped by a tooth ache or a broken hip, or thrown in jail because of mistaken identity, or my pet dog dies, or a catch my wife with my father, well, I see that as a message to go about doing this or doing that even though I am still completely happy. But if you are so Happy, what is with the Course Corrections and back paddling. Nobody is Happy to step in a big pile of what we typically step around.) . Normal people admit that pain and bad things make them unhappy, and they take this Unhappiness as a message to either do what can be done, or hunker down and ride out the storm as best they can. But you have to take the long way around because, for some Ideological Reason (apparently New Age People are worse about Pure Orthodoxy then any Philosophy or Religion that has ever come before) it is forbidden of you to admit ever to being unhappy. If forces other people to use different words simply to accommodate the narrowness of your Belief System.

So apparently when we want to talk to you about being Unhappy, we are supposed to talk about how some Toothache, broken hip, Getting Wrongfully Thrown in Jail, Find our Father sleeping with our Wife -- that we have gotten a "Message". But now that Message means Unhappiness, we will have to find a new word for Message. Being New Age is all very complicated. The Old Days had their problems, but language was far simpler, and nobody had to worry to such an extent about Ideological Purity.

I guess it is the New Age that makes us all wistful for the Good Ol' Days.
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Postby JuliusFawcett » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Yes and when we course correct enough, we always stay on the right course, for example, my teeth are really good, I have never had toothache
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:03 pm

JuliusFawcett wrote:Yes and when we course correct enough, we always stay on the right course, for example, my teeth are really good, I have never had toothache


Yes, never a toothache, only a few attempted suicides, envy of your brother and bad feelings about your father. Leo is pointing out what many others have, playing games with language only goes so far.
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Postby Leo Volont » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:18 am

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:
JuliusFawcett wrote:Yes and when we course correct enough, we always stay on the right course, for example, my teeth are really good, I have never had toothache


Yes, never a toothache, only a few attempted suicides, envy of your brother and bad feelings about your father. Leo is pointing out what many others have, playing games with language only goes so far.


Wow! Thanks Richard. Luv ya man.
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