by tokeless » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:37 pm
The details being it was only a temporary stay on deportation?
No, the issue was about the values and principles. You believe because he did the prevention of deportation it was evidence of that. I am asking why didn't he go the whole hog and give them permanent status? Maybe, he did what he did because it benefitted him to do that, you know, like politicians having photo opportunities with children and other cuddly things... good for the image and votes. Yes, I'm being cynical about politics in general, not just Trump. It's all image politics, shiny suits and promises. He had the power to go full on, yet chose not to... why not?
Look at how you twist that into your own reasons. Just because it isn’t how you would have done if you were king for a day, doesn’t make his actions racist, xenophobic, or fascist.
No, that's fact. I didn't influence or twist his decision. The fact is he gave temporary status for 18 months. I haven't mentioned racist or fascist in this instance, so try not use it to tarnish my point.
It’s like you read and see he gave 18 months, but you would make it permanent so your conclusion is he’s somehow the super villain you wish he was.
Again, it's a fact what he did. Why not go full status? That's the question. If I were in his position and could have, I would look at the reasons and then make my decision. What were his reasons not to? I suggest its because he didn't want to, he just needed the brownie points.
Again, he’s not. He stopped deportation of Venezuelans which was a good thing. But you struggle to acknowledge even that.[/quote]
I don't have to acknowledge it Richard as it's a fact of what he did. It was a good thing, but I question his motives. He's a politician... they all have motives, good, bad and self serving.
Trump is loyal to those who are loyal to him... Roger Stone was loyal and defied a subpoena to testify against him. Trump pardoned him. It's quid pro quo. Should Trump have done that? Go against a legal process? He had the power to do it and save himself too.