Self Help books?

Hello,

How about this site as a starter: clinical-depression(dot)co(dot)uk, and check out the "depression learning path" tab. It was really helpful, something that is out-of-the-box for a change!

Rizwana wrote:clinical-depression(dot)co(dot)uk, and check out the "depression learning path" tab.

This forum is starting to piss me off- why do random people on the internet feel the need to diagnose medical conditions to others after reading a couple of lines about how people are unhappy right now. Half of you have never even studied psychology/biology/neuroscience but everyone on the internet is apparently a f***ing doctor

To answer OP, most self-help books are great, the fact that you want to help yourself to understand what's going on and that you want to improve is probably the hardest step, or at least it was for me- being in denial meant a lot of time was spent drifting from one thing to another/being distracted, so good job for coming to terms with your situation and wanting to choose to grow.

From what I have read, the best self-help books are more about offering different perspectives and help build on your attitude and character to deal with current conflicts in the best way possible and to build a solid/healthy foundation for future conflicts. And so a couple of books I recommend are;

Eckharte Tolle- The Power of NOW
Emerson- Self Reliance

Also, watching Youtubers such as Elliot Hulse, Eric Thomas, Les Brown, Brendon Burchard, Eckharte Tolle has really helped me to figure out what I'm not so good at and what I can improve upon to be a better version of myself.

I think it's worth mentioning that there are 000's of books on anxiety out there, and you can spend your whole life trying to figure out the best way to deal with a problem. OR you can go out into the world and just enjoy yourself.
A metaphor I like to use is that the best bodybuilder cannot be the best scientist and vice versa- Are you going to spend years studying your pitfalls or are you going use and enjoy the good things you have already developed.

To Jacob635,

If the first para of your reply was referred to the few lines that i wrote to Everevolving's post, please note: I was not trying to diagnose anybody's problem. That person wanted stuffs to read which gave an insight, and I simply gave a website address which may turn out to be helpful if at all.

Deal with your anger issues first before passing a comment on anyone. And I am quite sure swearing goes against this forum's rules.

Rizwana wrote:Deal with your anger issues first before passing a comment on anyone

Depression is not a real thing it's only an analogy used to describe how a person can have similar reoccurring negative thoughts and this sense of low-ness resonates with the rest of their life, such as their vocation, their relationships and other areas of their own mind.
My problem is that people link sadness to depression immediately (and many people today are drawn to feeling depressed) as a result of others reinforcing that their sadness=depression by offering them help out of the imaginary hole that they aren't even in.

You cannot be happy 100% of the time unless you're deluded to the point of insanity like JuliusFawcett. YES you can be at peace when you are happy and at peace when you are sad. You can be sad, it is okay, it is natural that we all have emotions. Just because you are upset, does not mean that you need to see a doctor or see clinical depression links/information on the topic.

I think people get a buzz out of telling other people they suffer from an illness so that they can feel superior- they don't have the courage to deal with their own problems so they put it onto other people.

YOU REFERRED THE OP TO A WEBSITE ABOUT CLINICAL DEPRESSION FGS

Having low self esteem is not the same as clinical depression *** *****. There are ups and downs in life and when people like OP have the courage to come to terms with the downs, they are basically told they should really be cautious and that they have a bigger problem than they think, that only a professional can deal with. No wonder mental disorders are on the rise.

jacob635 wrote:. . . you moron.

Uncalled for, and against forum rules. Please post without abusive or insulting language.

Uncalled for? I would disagree. Many people suffer from serious mental illness and this can have huge affects on the way they live their lives. If people are wrongly diagnosing one another as ill, what kind of society are we going to live in. Not one that I want to be a part of. Wrong diagnosis is no laughing matter.

One day everyone will be depressed if they listen to each other for long enough. I'd much rather be a part of an inspiring and growing society than a declining unhappy unmotivated one, wouldn't you?

No I do not think depression can be solved with a switch, yes I think it is an extremely sensitive area which we should do our utmost to help one another with, but telling people, courageous people that they should seek advice is not the right way to go about helping those who are willing to help themselves.

I have removed my *rude* comment for you

Listen Jacob365,

Why are you so worked up?

Members here may give advice or assistance from their own personal experiences or from professional expertise. If any content is deemed objectionable, I think the moderator can deal with it. This forum as far as I can understand are open to all, including people like you.

Everevolving did mention depression in his post, but it was not mentioned whether it was "just feeling depressed at present" or "clinical depression". The website I recommended could help into what he is looking for or maybe not, that is completely upto him, as the information given in the original post was not adequate enuf. It was not even clear whether he wanted it for himself or for someone else. What I wrote is just a recommendation, neither you nor I are exposed to information adequate enuf to diagnose the actual problem, all we can do is suggest and assist, the rest is upto the receiver.

Nobody here is posting for a feeling of superiority, but the loudness in your post does attract unnecessary attention. You have serious anger problems, if what other people suggest bother you so much, then the least you can do is be patient about it, you do not have to draw a crowd. Make sure the books you suggested to Everevolving were of some help to you, and I have no interest in your filthy choice of vocabulary. You do not have the right to talk to any member like that.

jacob635 wrote:Uncalled for? I would disagree.
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I have removed my *rude* comment for you

It wasn't for "me" but for you, to keep yourself from being banned from this forum, as this forum has a few rules.

jacob635 wrote:Many people suffer from serious mental illness and this can have huge affects on the way they live their lives. If people are wrongly diagnosing one another as ill, what kind of society are we going to live in. Not one that I want to be a part of. Wrong diagnosis is no laughing matter.

What if everyone is innately mentally healthy, and every diagnosis is a wrong or unhelpful diagnosis?

jacob635 wrote:One day everyone will be depressed if they listen to each other for long enough. I'd much rather be a part of an inspiring and growing society than a declining unhappy unmotivated one, wouldn't you?

And when you know the source of your emotions, it really won't matter to you what other people are saying. Do you know the source of your emotions?

jacob635 wrote:No I do not think depression can be solved with a switch, yes I think it is an extremely sensitive area which we should do our utmost to help one another with, but telling people, courageous people that they should seek advice is not the right way to go about helping those who are willing to help themselves.

It can be solved with a switch, if you know what that switch is. It's a switch in an understanding of how we experience our reality.

Rizwana wrote:Why are you so worked up?

jacob635 wrote: people link sadness to depression immediately (and many people today are drawn to feeling depressed) as a result of others reinforcing that their sadness=depression by offering them help out of the imaginary hole that they aren't even in.

it's right there in bold writing , It's seems as though you read nothing of what I had to say and just read the 'dirty words' and managed to forget or ignore what I was saying. Ignorance is unhelpful for a race that wants to grow and be happy.

I am not aiming this post directly at you, but to the collective who refer other posters to sources to 'get help' and to fix problems that aren't even problems.

jacob635 wrote: but the loudness in your post does attract unnecessary attention. You have serious anger problems

This dumb comment is exactly my point. I am not explaining my point again, is it clear as day here.

jacob635 wrote:if what other people suggest bother you so much, then the least you can do is be patient about it, you do not have to draw a crowd.and I have no interest in your filthy choice of vocabulary. You do not have the right to talk to any member like that.

Yeah let's just all sit here doing nothing, referring people to fix made-up problems and lets all get upset that the vocabulary someone used is aggressive. Aggressiveness and initiative solve nothing, lets all die without ever chasing our dreams and sticking to the rules because being patient and waiting for things to pass has worked in the past. Smh

I did not link sadness to depression, merely recommended a site which the original poster can extract help from, if he/she wants to at all, h/she merely wanted some insightful reading material, h/she did not mention the severity of the problem being suffered. It was not clear from the original post whether h/she is suffering thru being "just depressed" or clinical depression. Under a presence of inadequate info, members try to provide suggestions here. If you have problems with the suggestion, patiently try to offer your wise words, rather show someone down.

As you have understood that people have problems with your uncouth sense of writing, why dont you stop it right away, it is for the greater good, dont you think?

The members here offering suggestions might be going thru depression themselves, maybe doing better than some and in the position to offer help. I am dealing with depression myself for the last 7 years, and I have not taken any medication/counselling, recently came across a really informative and motivating piece of writing which has helped me in some way, so thought could offer help to others as well.

Maybe the lesson for you would be to try to know the members better before calling them a moron and their writings dumb. It is rather surprising that you could say so much to someone assuming incorrectly their background or what caused them to come to this site on the first place. And that also from a person who have participated in so many discussions before, it is upsetting how experience fails to teach some people.

Why are y'all fight in?! Wow! Thank you for the suggestions jacob635. I love Eckhart Rolls, read his book A New Earth but haven't read the Power of Now yet. I agree that you can't just read books and you have to just go live life but I do find that reading self help books from time to time is extremely useful. I'm not sure if I am clinically depressed but I have always had low self esteem and anxiety issues.

Hey ever...what are you anxious about? Why do you think you have low self esteem?

A really fantastic book is called the Road Less Travelled... by author Scott Peck

It really is fantastic in terms of understanding who is going on inside us... why your thoughts and beliefs in yourself come from and why they formed. It gives great insight into how to guide yourself

A must read

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