I need an outside perspective

Postby Soltres » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:52 am

Okay so I’m 28 male, and have been married for 4 years now and we have been together for 8. In the past I had been in many relationships that ended badly for me, I haven’t ever been in a relationship that I didn’t end up being cheated on. I always find out and it’s usually something that’s been going on for a while. This coupled with growing up in an abusive home has caused me to develop major anxiety and insecurities in my life. When I met my wife I thought all of that had changed we quickly moved intogether and we got married a few years later. I was very happy for a long time but things weren’t always easy and I never expected them to be. My wife was diagnosed with pcos and had many hormone imbalances which caused much friction in our relationship to the point where we went over a year without being intimate and it really hit me hard. Made me feel like I wasn’t wanted or good enough for her but I chalked it up my insecurities and fought past that. I thought things were better but she goes away to stay with family for a weekend for a party and I find out Monday, after she gets back that she got blackout drunk and fooled around with some guy. Just making out and stuff according to her but she also says she doesn’t even remember anything else from that night so how can I know? She didn’t tell me until days later which also didn’t make me trust her anymore about the situation. That was 2 years ago and she feels like she didn’t do anything wrong and is angry with me for not trusting her, I’ve also caught her lying about friends who are guys and adding exes on her social media all to which she makes me feel like I’m the a hole for saying something bothers me. She said she met this guy a week ago and they became friends at the gym, I find out they were talking for over 2 months before she said anything about it. I know it’s wrong to not trust her to have friend that are guys so I try to encourage her even though it makes me uncomfortable because I want to trust her again and to fix our marriage but it seems like she isn’t putting in any effort even though she says I’m all she wants. She even recently made a comment about how things were different when she was with her exes. Which kills me inside to hear. We have been trying really hard to work things out and I was told today that she just wants to be herself 100 percent which I fully support. She wants me to trust her but I feel like I can’t yet especially not with her lying and hiding things but she said she did so because she knew it would make me uncomfortable and she feels there’s nothing wrong with that. She told me this morning she wasn’t happy our entire first year of marriage but thought it was mutual so she never talked about it. I was devastated because I was doing everything for her. She compares me to exes when we have sex and has even gone as far to say she preferred then to me. And that I’m too small for her taste even though I’m actually just above average. I feel like I’m going crazy changing everything and giving a thousand percent and not getting anything back. She even mentioned today that she has been checking out people while we are together and got angry with me for being hurt by that. Apparently she will check out guys, girls even when we are out with out 1 year old son. It feels like my feelings don’t matter to her at all and that she is selfish but part me is unsure if this is just my anxiety and low self esteem talking and she’s right I’m just an ahole or she is wrong to make me feel like I’m doing everything wrong. All I want is to be happy and make her happy and I want to do that as a family but I’m really scared that i won’t ever be happy if i stay . Sorry for the long post
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Postby quietvoice » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:53 am

You ought not be married to this person.
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Postby Soltres » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:24 pm

I feel that way sometimes but it’s been difficult between still caring for and and wanting to be there for my son but at the same time being miserable for years to come doesn’t seem like it’s even possible for me. Somehow whenever we talk about any of this it gets turned around so I’m the bad guy and I end up confused and waiting for something to change.
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Postby tokeless » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:40 pm

It doesn't sound very healthy this relationship and I think she is manipulating you by dismissing your concerns by blaming you for not trusting her.. How can you given what she's done and said. Cheating is cheating and alcohol is no excuse. Also, she seems to have no problem with being attracted to other people more than you. I would suggest you instigate a separation and move out if you can. Firstly it may help your esteem by taking control of the problem rather than reacting to her behaviour. It will also make her see what the future may be for her if this does not work. As for your child? You can still be a great dad even without the mother.. I am and am much happier for it.. Can you see yourself still in this situation in another 12 months? Take control of your life and make a stand. Perhaps your passivity is why she acts like this... Because she has no respect for you?
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Postby Livetowin » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:44 pm

Emotionally this might feel like a complex situation. But from a practical application, you need to step back and look at this with wiser eyes. I'm a big believer that when people have truly had enough, meaning they're lies to themselves no longer work, they get up and leave whatever situation they're in. You're in this because you emotionally choose to be there.

I fully understand the matter with your son, but this was at a breaking point LONG before your son came into the picture, so that's not the real answer. There's an old saying that we marry the people we think we deserve. There's allot of truth to that. When you have low self-esteem, you unfortunately gravitate towards people who give you the back seat in life. It's subconscious conditioning brought on by what you will tolerate because you don't think you've earned better, so you weather those moments rather than measure them at face value.

Looking at them for what they are means you're inserting your own self-worth and making a stand. But because you don't feel any great merit in yourself, you default to this old idea that you need to be more "understanding" to them and that "maybe they have a point" and maybe you don't see the benefit you have in staying with someone better than you. Your insecurities then do a quick compare shot of you by yourself versus weathering the indignities of your partner that , while bad, are " better" than living with your feelings of low self-esteem alone. Does that about cover it?

What you DO NOT see is you're already alone. My friend there are more lonely people who are married than those single and physically by themselves. For way too many people, marriage is a band-aid for their feelings of inadequacies. They would rather sit in insufferable conditions where they are ignored, demeaned, and otherwise neglected, all for what they view as the "face-saving" cover of marriage where they can lie to themselves and their friends about a storybook life that doesn't exist.

And it doesn't matter whether you live in an apartment or a $200 million home. It all registers the same. You're a prop in the company of other props with no life for yourself. And while we could cover each and every insult she has handed you in this relationship, I don't really see the merits in doing that, out side of asking yourself this one simple question: Can you ever fathom saying or doing those things to another person, let alone your spouse? Got to believe your only answer to that is a resounding "Never." So why are you taking it? There you go. You're simply supplementing her life until she works out a scenario where she can finally tell you she's leaving. So what are you going to do?

First you need to make up your mind your life is worth something to you and your son. If all she has to do is cry some BS story that easily pulls you back in so you don't have to weigh all of this, then you're basically saying you're not ready. So when do you become ready? When she comes to you instead an sets the terms? That's what she's been doing all along, so you're already on that ride. If the answer is yes, you're ready to move on then you need to start planning.

Do you have financial provisions to live on your own? If you don't then you need to start working on that. Is there a place you can move to that will provide you cover while you transition out of this? Is your current residence your home? Did you buy it before you were married? You need to start talking to an attorney and plan this out so that while your emotions are getting spanked, you have a plan in place that doesn't require you to build it as you're going through this.

And that's what it comes down to. Are you prepared to see things as they are? Are you strong enough to take that first step and move on? Can you make this decision and implement a plan before you address it? Can you stick to your guns and not look back once the wheels start rolling? That's where you are at.

If you can get through this, you need to take a breather on relationships and work on yourself. You have a son now and he needs to get the best of you while you work to see the best inside yourself. I wish you success.
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Postby Soltres » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:17 pm

Thank you everyone for your responses so far I’ve been in this so long I just really needed to have a way of confirming that I am not crazy. Even today when I brought some issues up to her I get angry remarks instead of an apology. I have the finances and a place to move to that’s close enough to my job while all this happens. This post was brought on by me evaluating why I can’t sleep, and to because this situation was eating me alive inside. I’m happy to have found this website. Thank you for the advice thus far.
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Postby Candid » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:16 am

Soltres, it's time to work on your self-esteem. When one partner in a marriage is treating the other with contempt, the rot has started. Her respect for you has gone.

You can shut her out emotionally while you build yourself up from the inside. Either this will make her realise what she's got, and she'll start approaching you in a conciliatory way, or you'll separate naturally. If you make feeling good about yourself your primary goal, you'll be able to handle it either way.
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