ADHD and Hypnosis

Postby saladinsmith » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:04 am

So I was diagnosed with ADHD about fifteen years ago (I'm 30 now) and I declined medication. Now I'm looking back and wishing that I'd taken it. I've been unable to hold a job or maintain a stable relationship, and I can't be hypnotized. I've been working with one hypnotist for eight months, and after all of that time, he can put me into trance reliably -- but that's it. I often come out of trance just as easily, and the suggestions don't do anything for me.

I've heard from a number of other people who said that hypnosis never worked for them until they treated their ADHD, and I've also heard from people that they've been able to use hypnosis to reproduce the effects of drugs. So what I'm wondering is if I could get some sort of ADHD medication, and, while under its effects, be hypnotized so that I can reproduce those effects at will. Is such a thing possible, and if so, how would I do it?
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Postby Dave » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:40 pm

I'm on a pension due to an inability to hold down a job. I'm 47. I have used medications for years, however it was NLP basics that helped me discover the power of self:

ADHD medications did well to put me in a zone to complete a task, but also made me dependant like all the other mood altering drugs I tried for myself. Only when I was able to shake off the reliance that such medications brought about did I discover the true meaning and power of self.

Unless I can find my own words instead of hanging on those of others and unless I can judge from my own experiences as opposed to that of others; I will always live in doubt and be asking the same old questions.

Participation is key to hypnotherapy, however the art of practice is much more than the act of showing up. The most productive and positive chemical transformation one can make, is that which we Will for ourselves. Something that took me a long time to discover as I too often wondered why the words of others failed to help.

Using chemicals only weakened my will – however learning more about myself helped me strengthen my will. Medications only brought about short term relief that often ended up leaving me all the more weaker in the months or years ahead. I only use medications in extreme situations.

Connecting the bridges through fostering desire and discovering my true self, is imo the only way to go when it comes to building long lasting bridges and finding a will that's gives life instead of saps.

Oh yea – I'm always re-evaluating my intention. But that's another story. I get quite manic as well – but that's life and I am learning to accept it. Since discovery the art of opening myself up to positive changes, I find I'm much more hope.

I'm sure a professional can guide you in the use of medications and or helping you on your way. I have made more ground by becoming my own therapist, which is actually how I found this place. Having said that, I also see one myself. :)
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Postby saladinsmith » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:06 am

Thanks. You're probably right about seeing a therapist. Hypnotherapists, on the other hand, have been pretty much useless to me. I contacted one, and she said she was going to teach me EFT Tapping, which Wikipedia says is a placebo. I definitely don't need to pay hundreds for a placebo.
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Postby Dave » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:32 pm

YW. I just chat with a Psychologist about every 6 weeks. I find it helpful. It is one of many practices I am doing which keeps me off meds. I was on some hard core antiphsycotics for a long time.

I'm not really into EFT or CBT, however I'm all for it as far as it helping others. To be fair, I am coming to learn that most fields of therapy all share similar elements. I am struggling a bit with working out my aims. I think it's because I like to focus more on core issues as opposed to dealing with symptoms. Just like GPs, many therapists are often too band aid orientated. The beauty with self hypnosis is one can better focus on what matters.

Getting a bit late here ... ZZZZZZzzz - I hear ya on the $$$$$$$.
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Postby hypnotism » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:53 pm

In the process of hypnotism, there is a subject and the hypnotist. The first requirement of hypnotism is willingness of the subject, and his/her faith on the hypnotist. The subject is asked to concentrate on certain things and follow the hypnotist’s instructions. With the aid of music, shining objects such as crystal ball, or moving instruments such as pendulum, the subject is taken into the trance. Through hypnotism, unconscious mind of the subject can be unraveled. Hypnotism is generally practiced by psychiatrists for psychoanalysis, and to cure mental patients.
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Postby jargan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:17 am

I would be careful about overly general claims. It's tempting to go "ADHD=ADHD", but in reality the diagnostic criteria leave a lot of room for different "types". This is the danger with labels: it's easy to forget that "ADHD" is just a category to make it easier to collect data and (hopefully) treatment ideas in a single place. But, who knows, maybe any given approach works for only part of the ADHD group...

The same is true for hypnosis. A lot of wildly different things are collected under the umbrella of "hypnosis". I don't think anyone on Earth has tried all of them.

With that in mind, "hypnosis doesn't work for ADHD" seems like an awfully presumptive statement to me.

As for your question: it seems somewhat plausible that that could work. Part of most problems people have is that they don't have reference experiences of a state in which the problem doesn't exist, or at least those reference experiences are very well hidden. Would it be fair to say you don't know how it feels to not "have ADHD"? Medication might give you that (disregarding all the potential side effects... that's another story). It's equally plausible you could create that kind of reference experience without medication, though. In fact, I don't know you and your situation, but I think if we spent some time fishing for stuff we could probably find fragments we could build reference experiences out of (this is a very hypothetical "if", though, because the local laws don't let me practice psychotherapy).

I don't know what your hypnotist did but I can come up with many things hypnotists would be likely to try that don't work very well. ;)
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Postby master1 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:55 am

ADHD tends to respond best to CNS stimulants. Maybe before trying such drugs, get yourself some very high quality green tea (like dragonwell AAA grade). Have a few very strong cups and see what happens when your CNS is stimulated. In theory, you should feel more centred and relaxed.

If it did work, then it would be a matter of dosing before therapy or hypnosis. Personally, I reckon therapy could be a better option. I wouldn't be so quick to write off EFT. In EFT, the painful memory/event gets 'swooshed' by a feeling of self-love (to use an NLP term). There are many similar techniques.

I think you'll find these videos very impressive. Search for "coherence therapy" on utube
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