Urge to have revenge

In a neuroscience class I remember that the teacher says that in the brain the same part that takes care of the anger, it deals with the sexuality, therefore it is something complex, but perhaps it has relation, the fantasies of revenge, perhaps they are the opposite To sexual fantasies, to aggressively subdue a woman, discharging some energy, maybe if your sexuality changes, your way of expressing anger will also

Tantra can change your sexuality, and turn it little by little into love, pure love

Therefore to change that habit to fantasize with the anger, also perhaps it is necessary to change the habit of fantasizing with the sexuality

There is nothing wrong with sex, there is nothing wrong with anger, the problem is to express them in the right way, at a suitable time and place, it is a skill, it is part of emotional intelligence, know about the energy and how to use it, and download it

Maybe your body has a lot of energy and needs movement, maybe you need to practice a little more sport, or eat less, because energy seeks to flow, and if you do not find a creative way, energy flows in destructively or sexually way

federico91 wrote:In a neuroscience class I remember that the teacher says that in the brain the same part that takes care of the anger, it deals with the sexuality, therefore it is something complex, but perhaps it has relation, the fantasies of revenge, perhaps they are the opposite To sexual fantasies, to aggressively subdue a woman, discharging some energy, maybe if your sexuality changes, your way of expressing anger will also

Tantra can change your sexuality, and turn it little by little into love, pure love

Dear Federico

Interesting... But the Part of the Brain that regulates Sex, and all that, well, it might simply be one of those basic lower order Brain Structures common to all of the animals -- regulating Hunger, Thirst, Pain, Comfort... that is, it could be the Brain that dictates Basic Animal Motivations. Now we have to wonder why your Teacher would fixate so much upon Sex? Well, yes, I can see the Primitive Connection between Sex and the Willingness to Violence -- that in some cases one's Selected Mate may be a bit 'reluctant' and so Violence could be used to overcome Resistance, BUT I MOSTLY believe that Violence would be Built In for Dealing with Rivals. Look at Nature. Male Animals are ALL THE TIME fighting over the females. If one was Reluctant to Fight, then one would not Reproduce. Therefore we are all Evolved from a Very Long Line of Fighting Lover Boys!

Now, about Tantra can change your sexuality, and turn it little by little into love, pure love Well, yes, there may be something in that. When I was in India I read this odd little book about Kundalini (a lot like Tantra) by this Devotee of the late Sathya Sai Baba. He got through most of the Book and then, Suddenly, he admits that he HAD BEEN a Homosexual, but that SUDDENLY the Kundalini had turned him into a Heterosexual, and then there was this bazaar section in the book where he is chasing around this poor young school girl. I felt embarrassed to be reading such a thing, and wondered how anybody would Write It! But, the fact remains that apparently this Person's Sexuality was greatly affected by this kind of "Tantric" Primal Energy.

federico91 wrote:
Maybe your body has a lot of energy and needs movement, maybe you need to practice a little more sport, or eat less, because energy seeks to flow, and if you do not find a creative way, energy flows in destructively or sexually way

Dear Federico

I have studied this kind of thing for years, and I have come to the conclusion that A Healthy Well Fed Body That Is Not Overly Fatigued or Over Stressed and Which Is Allowed Appropriate Amounts of Sleep, that THAT Body will Primed and Ready to Go Sexually. Sex is NOT an aberration for a healthy body. Healthy Animals have Sex Drives -- its a Survival and Evolutionary Mechanism which is easy enough to understand, isn't it? However, there are Traditions in Asia, and Ascetic Traditions from Old Catholic Europe where Sex is demonized -- Sex is Seen as Wasting some Precious Vital Essence. And so Efforts were made to Reduce Sex, or to reduce the Impulse to Sex. So Bodies were Starved (vegetarianism? and Fasting), deprived of Sleep (Prayer and Meditation Hours going throughout the Day and Night), and they were placed under a great deal of Stress (Absolute Obedience to Arbitrary Authority, Guilt about Sex, general Unworthiness, Striving for some Impossible Enlightenment). All of this was an effort to Destroy the Person's Health enough so that the Sex Drive would be KILLED. Of course, in Killing the Sex Drive, all of the other Bodily Organs must have suffered damage as well, or as 'badly', I should say. Many of the Most Successful "Saints", in this regards, died young.

Now, I have read of the Idea of Sublimation of the Sexual Energies. But I have Read of it more than I have ever Seen or Experienced it. It is probably like reading about 'Dragons' and 'Unicorns' -- writing about it doesn't make it Real.

Sublimation is possible, it takes a great willpower to postpone gratification, it can be said that all art, poetry is sublimated sexual energy, sex is union on a physical level, when the primordial energy is sublimated desire appears Of caring for details, romanticism, the search for a subtle unity with the other gender, and it can be said that love is the sublimation of sexual desire, all social progress says Freud, is achieved by means of sublimation, Which is the same concept of the rise of kundalini energy raised in the east

Now there is a difference between sublimation and repression, anger aggressiveness can be manifested by sexual repression, because one of the basic principles of energy is to flow, creatively,

Yes, sex is something very natural, present in nature in many ways, fruits for example are the sexual organs of plants, and we enjoy it, life originates through sex, but in human life there is a Big difference, a big obsession maybe with sexuality, partly because the industries know that the sex is very attractive, and in many of its products show provocative women to call the attention, the media, are full of subliminal messages,


There is a study done on a rat, that through an operation was given the possibility of having an orgasm every time he pressed a button, sex is very strong and attractive, the rat pressed the button thousands of times and died, because Forgetting to feed, drinking water, for that reason, it is necessary to have control of one's own sexuality, and to seek the proper way of expressing it and if possible sublimate it, it seems rather boring, something said by a priest, but it seems to me That it is possible to try, to sublimate the libido, because after all, if we are weak, if before the lesser stimuli we fall into temptation we can never find a partner, we need to be strong

Tantra seeks orgasm without ejaculation, it is possible to meditate on sexual energy in order to sublimate it
For example, during the day, one socializes with many women, that process generates a lot of sexual tension, which at night can manifest as wet dreams, or man can resort to masturbation to calm the psychic tension that generated all day at to be surrounded by women

Meditation means to clean the unconscious, everything that is repressed during the day, manifests itself during the night, Meditation is a way to consciously clean the unconscious

One just needs to sit relaxed and observe one's own mind, body sensations, emotions

And if one meditates at night, before sleep, one may be very tense because of sexual desire
If that is the situation, the way to transcend the desire is to observe, to relax, and when one relaxes, surely the fantasies begin to manifest, an erection takes place, and if one is observed, little by little, the psychic tension is It moves to the tension in the penis, and little by little, with the observation, the tension of the penis disappears, the desire disappears and the tension of the psyche as well, and one remains silent, relaxed and thus the sexual energy is transformed

Just watch, and wait

With the same anger, maybe during the day for different encounters with different men one feels inferior, and at night before sleep one can remember the situation, and start to feel a sense of injustice, anxiety pressure
And again the same process Just watch, and wait

It is possible to make a catharsis, for example writing what you think and feel can be a very cathartic exercise, and is very useful to develop greater emotional literacy
It is also possible to walk, and to observe one's own mind, thoughts and feelings, perhaps one begins inwardly to speak, and that is already something cathartic, cleanses the mind

Hi Federico,

Yes, I think it entirely heroic of you that you have been able to just observe and endure your Sexual Tension until it somehow ‘gets Sublimated’ or transmuted into some Higher Energy. I’ve studied Yoga for years and of course I’ve been influenced by these same Influences that have inspired you, but I never had on my best day the patience to endure what seemed quite akin to a form of Torture – waiting for Sexual Tension to just go away all by itself! Apparently you have more Will and Fortitude than I.

Oh, and then there is the Cute Story about Diogenes the Greek Philosopher (I believe he was a Cynic) who created something of a Scandal one day when he went to the Town Square, during the Lunch Hour when everyone in Town was milling about, and he sat down on one of the park benches and began masturbating! Even for the Ancient Greeks who ‘drew their lines’ a bit further out than we do today, that was Shocking Behavior and Diogenes was asked to explain himself. Well he said “I only wish I could Rub my Belly when I get Hungry”.

Anywaay, I am still not satisfied that you have explained WHY one must Sublimate and Transmute. If a Person is thriving and well-nourished one could assume that the Body would have Resources for Everything, including the Higher Functions. Why would a Healthy Body have to Rob from one Function in order to Feed Another. If the Higher Functions are important enough, they would Feed Themselves without having to resort to Theft.

Then, Federico, you haven’t answered my own observations posted yesterday, regarding how the Ascetic Traditions, East and West, have traditions of waging War against Sexuality – not to Transmute or Sublimate It, but simply to Kill It Dead – Vegetarianism, Fasting, Sleep Deprivation, Imposed Stress, Guilt… it seems the Goal is to Breakdown and Wreck the Health so Badly that Sex simply dries up and withers away. And this nearly always leads to an abbreviated overall Life Span – you can’t Kill One part of the Body with seriously attacking Everything Else. In View of THIS, well, everything you are SAYING would just seem to be like a Cover Story – a Propaganda of Justification – Certainly the Ascetics can’t Admit to What they are REALLY Doing, and so a Pretty Story gets Fabricated and all of the True Believers are enjoined to Pass the Word. Of course, if it is TRUE, then that would make everything All Right, but, frankly, I think this is all Wishful Thinking. I think that People who HAVE shut down their Sexuality have done it by destroying their Health. After all, it is No Secret that Really Enthusiastic Yoga Practitioners put themselves on those Special Diets, which when Normal People comment on them typically say “I don’t Know how Anybody could Live on That”. In this Case I think that the Common Sense Observation is quite Lucid!

But now I am Old and so my body is Naturally Wearing Down. You could say that Old Age is doing all the Sublimation and Transmuting for me.

Religion is very broad and complex, something they have in common is that they all promote a free lifestyle of violence and proper sexual behavior. Nevertheless the Tantra, is a part of the Buddhism that never denied the sexuality, its philosophy is to transform the sexuality through the meditation

On the other hand it is normal for religions to have a certain negation of sexuality, because if a person is given a lot of sexual freedom from a very young age, it can happen the same thing that happened to the rat in the experiment, to think only about sex To the point of forgetting to cover with the other basic necessities

There is some wisdom in religions, because perhaps it seeks to develop people seek a source of pleasure in productive and creative activities for their own good and for the good of society

Is a sensitive and complex issue, no extreme attitude is good, Because to suppress sexuality, is to suppress the flow of energy and if you do not seek to channel the energy in some other source, that situation can generate tension, and the aggressiveness can bubble at any moment

But on the other hand, abuse of sexuality, masturbation can generate guilt, fear, anxiety to socialize, and turn off sexual desire, which in some way is very necessary to remain somewhere in the unconscious to be a source of motivation, to improve and attract the person you want, otherwise the sexuality is lived alone as a fantasy, without any source of reality, real sexuality I think happens in the encounter with another person, sometimes with a look, sometimes with a dialogue

What would happen if the animals masturbated? The males were satisfied and would give them the same look for the best female or not to transmit their best genes, Inevitably the species would be extinguished in a few hundred years. In a way, it is the desire that is repressed which allows the males to look for a female, the best female, to transmit their genes

Can you imagine male salmon masturbating? They can not because they do not have hands but if they had hands and masturbate afterwards they would be asking each other "to swim against the current, to stop feeding, only to reproduce !? we better go swimming around looking for food!"

The salmon history is a great example of evolution, male salmon swim against the current from the sea, only to reproduce, and on the journey suffer many modifications in their bodies and when they reach the place where they were born, release their spermatozoa and die

I do not know what to say, But I agree in part with your point of view