My boss wouldn't give me full-time

Postby calmy12 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:43 pm

My boss called me in to her office last week. She repeatedly say how valuable I am to this workplace. However, the company is unable to give me a full-time position. I've worked for this company for 2 years and I'm still an ongoing causal title i.e working 5 days a week. I'm feeling confused, all the new starters are given 'full-time' but I am still stuck with a causal position. Are all admin/reception type of work 'consider casual' nowdays?
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Postby quietvoice » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:08 am

Did you change your mind about planning to leave once you find another job?
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Postby Alexander Ang » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:35 am

Hi There,

I'm sorry to hear about your experience. Have you talked to your boss about how you feel?

What's your plan in mind? If you are not sure what's your boss thinking, perhaps you can talk to him personally.
At the same time, do think about what do you like to do? If you think else where can give you a better career grow, then you might want to consider see if it's good fit for you.
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Postby calmy12 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:08 am

I haven't started job hunting yet because I've been very depressed the past few weeks. I was feeling a bit better until my boss called me in last week and gave me the news that I wasn't expecting.

I didn't ask for a full-time position. She just pulled me into her room and she told me she tried asking the GM to make me full-time but the GM refused. She started off saying, I am the most important person in the company etc...unfortunately, I can only stay 'causal'.

What I'm confused about is how she kept rambling about I am so 'important' in this company etc.. but in the end, no full-time. I don't get it.

I feel so insignificant in this company.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:43 pm

Calmy,

Your boss had to deliver bad news so she tried to soften the blow by telling you how valuable you are. She probably did not realize she was sending a mixed message. Regardless, the truth of the situation is at this time you are valued as a causal employee, no more.

You need to look for another job. If after two years you have not been able to demonstrate value to get a full-time position, then it is unlikely any additional effort or improvements will change your situation. In this situation your highest return is to use the experience and find a better, full-time position elsewhere.
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Postby Alexander Ang » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:44 am

Hi Calmy,

Come to think of it, if you are confident with your skills and experience, and if others doesn't appreciate your hard work, effort and your contribution, I believe somewhere else, someone will sees the effort in you. I'm sure they are other workplaces, with better environment, and culture will appreciate your value and your contribution.

Also, have you thought of why did your company GM refuse to get you in full time? Some of the factors you might want to sit down and think about it, here are some possible factor:

1) Company budget are limited - If they bringing in one full time, perhaps more expense to the company weighing all the benefits as a full time stuff.

2) They do not see your significant contribution in the company? Did you show or let them realize your contribution and the effort you put in for the company?

3) Instead of feeling negative emotion, you can focus on what needs to be done next. You don't really have to feel what others feel about you. You are you, you are unique in your own way. & this is your life, you decide to move on, or decide to make a change and decide to be better tomorrow.

What do you think? :idea:
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Postby calmy12 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:09 am

I just don't know who to believe..

One of my staff asked me if I have found a job yet. I'm surprised why he asked me that.

At work, I felt really awkward. It's like everyone seems to know something except for me.

I need to start looking for another job. It's better to resign that waiting for an announcement from the HR that I'm no longer needed in this company.
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Postby calmy12 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:23 am

It's very interesting to know that my feelings for D is no longer important at this point. Today, I have tried to distance myself away from him because I know nothing will ever happen between us two. It hurts to do this, but I think this is the right thing to do.

Hopefully if I find another job, I could completely forget about him and recover from this. I'm not a religious person. but i stumbled some interesting articles on the internet relating to detachments and life being an illusion and full of 'suffering'.

My mind created those false fantasies and obsession over D. But in the end, I gained nothing apart from all the pain and misery it caused.

As to my close friend, well she ignored me too. Now, I don't have anyone to discuss my problems with at work.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:09 pm

calmy12 wrote:
One of my staff asked me if I have found a job yet. I'm surprised why he asked me that.

At work, I felt really awkward. It's like everyone seems to know something except for me.

I need to start looking for another job.


Yes, you do need to start looking for another job. In your office, people know more than you are willing to give them credit for. A new job will give you new opportunities.
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Postby WonderGurl » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:54 pm

calmy12 wrote:As to my close friend, well she ignored me too. Now, I don't have anyone to discuss my problems with at work.


Erm...why would you mix business and personal relationships? :?
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Postby calmy12 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:45 pm

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:
calmy12 wrote:
One of my staff asked me if I have found a job yet. I'm surprised why he asked me that.

At work, I felt really awkward. It's like everyone seems to know something except for me.

I need to start looking for another job.


Yes, you do need to start looking for another job. In your office, people know more than you are willing to give them credit for. A new job will give you new opportunities.


Thanks for that. This is exactly what I meant in my other post regarding gossips around my back without me knowing the full stories. I hear bits and pieces of information from each individuals, they never seem to tell me the full story, it's like they're either afraid to do so, or they don't know.
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Postby calmy12 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:48 pm

WonderGurl wrote:
calmy12 wrote:As to my close friend, well she ignored me too. Now, I don't have anyone to discuss my problems with at work.


Erm...why would you mix business and personal relationships? :?


I've been naive to trust everyone in the workplace . I thought you can make 'friends' in the workplace. But the truth is - you can never make friends in the workplace. People gossip each other behind their back because they got nothing better to do at work, and one tiny rumor spread to the next etc.
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Postby WonderGurl » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:36 pm

calmy12 wrote:
WonderGurl wrote:
calmy12 wrote:As to my close friend, well she ignored me too. Now, I don't have anyone to discuss my problems with at work.


Erm...why would you mix business and personal relationships? :?


I've been naive to trust everyone in the workplace . I thought you can make 'friends' in the workplace. But the truth is - you can never make friends in the workplace. People gossip each other behind their back because they got nothing better to do at work, and one tiny rumor spread to the next etc.


I agree. What people (who are serious about their career prospects) do at work is work. They do not go around chatting, wasting time and attempting to solve their personal problems at work. If you think your boss who thinks twice before giving you full time hasn't got you sussed, you're naive. Picture I'm a boss, why would I want to pay someone for getting involved in personal dramas in workplace I run. I would be loosing my money as an employer on you. If you want to be a valuable employee, you must commit yourself to your responsibilities. When you don't take your work seriously 100%, why would your boss take you seriously. Think about it.
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Postby calmy12 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:17 am

You should not be basing your assumption on this post only .

In the past, I bought home work to do. I even stayed back to take to do research. I have used my own money to buy things for the company. I also took the initiative to do other things that are not part of my duties like tidying the otffice and make it clean and presentable.

Like I said in my intro - I was surprised why my boss was telling me no full-time. I didn't even ask her for a full-time position. I think reception / admin duties are considered casual nowdays.

Moving forward, I have already enrolled in a course hopefully to build up my skills.
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Postby WonderGurl » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:07 am

Regardless of how hard you may think you work, all it takes to ruin your reputation is displaying incompetence, such as getting involved with people at your place of work on a personal level, and that that you do will reach your boss quicker than wild fire. It's hard to build reputation, it's easy to ruin it.
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