Codeine addiction

Hey there..I guess I was waiting on somebody who knows more about that.But yeah,I'd say I was hooked on that too,for a while.I took them every day and increased dosage,when I came down quicker...for almost a year.I only quit because the dude I got them from and I got in a fight.Guess I did not want to give him the satisfaction of seeing me that needy.
And I was really whiny and kinda depressive for a while,but I still smoked weed.So its also hard to say if I had physical withdrawals,being my mind came up with amazing reasons why I need the pills,for a while.
I even checked to get them online,but while doing it,I knew that I could get myself into a lot worst situation than being used to get high on weed.
You said you want to escape.I can tell you plenty of escape routes,like become a workaholic,drink,gamble,have sex or join an organized religion and let them hypnotize you.All of those are evasions.Just because you want to escape something bad does not mean you will find whats good.
Why does one want to get high in the first place? Its' also an escape from something unpleasant,right?
From what I read about those pills (and what kept me from ordering them online)is that they are really close to heroin,and there are cliniks for withdrawal.That does not mean that YOU need a clinik.It's really good to not compare yourself and assume.It's hard to say if you experience withdrawal or fear of withdrawal.In both,your mind clings to the pills.As it does anyhow,right?
So maybe figure out what you're escaping from.And if it can ultimately be escaped from or needs to be faced factually and without panic.
I feel for you,but only you know what you have to do,and you DO know.
Much luv

Thanks Stray Cat!!

Fresha,

My heart goes out to you. I was strung out on that stuff at one point and it wasn't pretty. It only leads to harder things. I suggest you check yourself into a medical detox.

Hi
I was using Tramadol (ultram) for unexplained pains for about 4 years. I took them every day, they apparently give a mood lift due to the action on certain neuro-transmitters in the brain, but for me, the time came to stop using them. I've heard of a plant called Kratom which some have used to quit opiates. It may ease your withdrawals, in any case, you've got to want to give up truly in your heart of hearts. First I quit weed, then tramadol, next co-codamol....One step at a time. Don't give up trying even if you relapse, thats ok and normal (proabaly)

If you have a will to quit, and determine in your own mind that its time and you will struggle through the bad patches, you have a better chance of success. Why not have a look at Narcotics Anonymous. I get a thought for the day sent by email which is very helpful. You need other ex-addicts support, try and get to an NA 12 step meeting. You need to fill the gap codeine will leave when you stop using it. Its about learning to live life without drugs. It takes time.

Try and figure out why you use. Is it just for pleasure, boredom, something missing from your life, deep unresolved grief or other issues? If you get all your needs met in a healthy way, you probably won't need to use. Yeah, definately try Narcotics Anonymous. You'll get there if you want to.
I wish you all the luck in the world. I'm having counselling once a week and no doubt my drug use will probably surface at some point, but the I can highly recommend getting some sort of counselling...
Best wishes
Me

hi
i was addicted to codine for ten years it started with just 2 a day for pain then it got higher and higher it was a good high at the time but then it got outta control i was taking vallium then tramdol anything i could get even went the herion route even having three kids could not stop me ppl calling me a junkie smack head everything .i was so scared of withdrawls but i was sick cause i was withdrawing and thats scary thinking where am i going get them u know what i woke up and looked at my life my kids and went to the docs and said nomore it was the most horrible shity time ive been through in my life it took months please pal get the docs help and get of the demon codine .my teeth went my life was overuled by them i never thought i could do it but i did it was so hard wow it was any other stuffu wanna know contact me.all the best

Hey Everyone,
Its great to have a place like this, eh.

Im on my second day of Suboxone for the withdrawal of Codeine and DXM (Dextromethorphan). My main habbits were useing either 400mg of Codeine or 600mg of DXM each night for about 6 months. I didnt go for longer than 4-5 days without a high each night. Disgusting i know, i used to withdraw each day only to repeat the cycle. I decided to quit after realizing these doses werent effecting me at all. It got to the point where i was gagging every 5-10 minutes the following day.

I am so suprised at how well the Suboxone is helping me. Even at only 8mg so far. A true life saver. It is early days i know, but i think the antidepressant effect of the Buprenorphine is a huge part of it. My use was related to Borderline Personality Disorder.

The reason for the background is to get some discussion going around the use of Suboxone for over the counter drugs like Codeine and DXM. I never thought ide be stupid enough to end up addicted to these things, i didnt realise until it was too late. "Its just over the counter stuff, it cant be that bad... Its fun for now, i'll be able to stop when i want to."

Has anyone else found themselves in the same situation with OTC drugs?
Is anyone using Suboxone for the withdrawal of Codeine or DXM?
What was your use like? What dosage of Suboxone are you finding helpful?
How do you feel about your Suboxone and dosage?
How long do you think you will take Suboxone?

Wow, I'm glad I found this place as I thought I was pretty much alone with this problem.

I'm 24 now but have been addicted to OTC opiates since I was about 19.

I started taking (dihydro)codeine like I would any any other recreational drug by doing cold water extractions on tablets or chugging down bottles of codeine linctus or j collis brownes mixture if I was able to get hold of it.

It started out as just a once a week treat, then grew to twice a week.... and before I knew it, I was using it pretty much everyday. My tolerance is so high I would need to go round six different pharmacies to get six packs of co-codamol or paramol tables and do a huge extraction on them ... thats around 1200 mg of codeine in one big dose, plus some promethazine at the same time to potentiate it.

Sometimes when I didn't want to have to trek around to source the drugs then I would order alternatives online. Dried poppy pods to make poppy tea, tramadol tablets from abroad, some diazepam too.

Nowadays i've lost interest in experimenting with new drugs. However the opiates have left me with a big problem.

A lot of pharmacies will not serve me anymore and since they have put those addiction warning on the pack it has gotten even harder to get away with.

As for Subutex, I did want to try this at one point after my doctor referred me to my local drugs agency but they didn't think it was suitable for me. They were more used to dealing with people with heroin problems and didn't think my problem serious enough to warrant their services.

Right now my doctor has reluctantly prescribed me some sustained release tramadol tablets to take. I have 400mg a day and will most likely be cutting down by 50mg a week.

The main problem I know will be staying off it once I have managed to get clean of it. Other than this I am pretty healthy, I do martial arts, go to the gym, word hard and keep my mind active too.

Sadly though I have come to rely on this drug for temporary happyness for far too long. Living without it will take some serious unpleasant adjusting.

laimonas123 wrote:Hey Everyone,
Its great to have a place like this, eh.

Im on my second day of Suboxone for the withdrawal of Codeine and DXM (Dextromethorphan). My main habbits were useing either 400mg of Codeine or 600mg of DXM each night for about 6 months. I didnt go for longer than 4-5 days without a high each night. Disgusting i know, i used to withdraw each day only to repeat the cycle. I decided to quit after realizing these doses werent effecting me at all. It got to the point where i was gagging every 5-10 minutes the following day.

I am so suprised at how well the Suboxone is helping me. Even at only 8mg so far. A true life saver. It is early days i know, but i think the antidepressant effect of the Buprenorphine is a huge part of it. My use was related to Borderline Personality Disorder.

The reason for the background is to get some discussion going around the use of Suboxone for over the counter drugs like Codeine and DXM. I never thought ide be stupid enough to end up addicted to these things, i didnt realise until it was too late. "Its just over the counter stuff, it cant be that bad... Its fun for now, i'll be able to stop when i want to."

Has anyone else found themselves in the same situation with OTC drugs?
Is anyone using Suboxone for the withdrawal of Codeine or DXM?
What was your use like? What dosage of Suboxone are you finding helpful?
How do you feel about your Suboxone and dosage?
How long do you think you will take Suboxone?

To those thinking about using suboxone to taper off opiates, it's crucial to remember not to start the suboxone until opiates have left the system - short acting opiates do not require as long due to their shorter half life, but longer acting opiates such as methadone, it's not uncommon to leave starting the suboxone for 4-5 days to avoid precipitated withdrawal . ( hell ) Heroin it's self has a much shorter half life and not as long a wait is necessary . Anyone trying this method, wait until AT LEAST withdrawals begin before hitting the subox' .

Missy

Whats the difference between Codeine and Herion?

I almost had a Codeine addiction, I really enjoyed the effects but the reason I couldn't do it anymore was the side effect of severe constipation, it can be very dangerous to be that blocked up. I've even heard of people who needed to go to the hospital to get their colons unblocked. Scary stuff