Heh... just curious to see your answer to this...

Postby Antigreen » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:14 pm

Since dreams are supposta be to deal with emotions that you didn't deal with throughout the day... or whatever...

Tell me how the hell this is related to my life?
I had a dream that I got killed by someone... died and went to hell(I find this odd since I'm an atheist and thus don't believe in the existence of a hell)... Killed Satan and take over hell... And then went forth on world domination... HOW THE HELL IS THAT RELATED TO MY LIFE?
All I do each day is sleep and pointlessly play video games. And I know for sure that I wasn't thinking about anything even remotely close to any of those things in that dream!
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Postby Michael Lank » Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:48 am

Hi Antigreen,

Dreams process the emotion. The content of dreams is metaphorical and not meant to be taken literally.

What emotion from the previous day do you think your dream was dealing with?
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Postby Antigreen » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:21 am

I have no idea...
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Postby Jill Wootton » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:26 pm

We all have weird and seemingly unrelated dreams on occassions, but one thing is for sure 'sleeping and playing pointless games.' isn't going to give you the Basic Human Needs stuff that we need to be emotionally and physically the best that you can be.

How about putting some of the past tips into action??


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Postby Antigreen » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:43 pm

Heh...
There are 2 things in the "basic 7 needs" that I don't see why I would need...
Well, first of all... All the references to real life human contact....
I tend to only get stressed out when I talk to people in real life...
One of the reasons being-
I'm surrounded by absolutely incompetent simpletons, I cannot hold a decent conversation with a single one of them, and they have an utter lack of reason... I cannot relate to ANYONE I know in real life.
And I don't feel a need to socialize... If anything, I WANT to not have real life contact.

And I don't get the part about "the need to be part of something bigger than oneself"... I feel no need to be part of any group... Any collective...
I am 100% independent, and would prefer to remain that way.

And I forgot to mention that I read and watch a lot of educational material.
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Postby Ferral » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:25 am

Yet you do seem to be part of this group.
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Postby Antigreen » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:13 am

What group?
I am merely registered to a forum...
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Postby dlynnr19 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:53 pm

Well, I can't explain how this has anything to do with your life....but...maybe this is a way to get you to rethink what you really believe in. I am not trying to change your mind in your beliefs because you probably get that from others but....maybe your dreams are getting you to think on what you do or do not believe in....hmmm.....I personally think our dreams are there to help us think....to be honest last night I had a dream that I totally know could never happen...ha ha ha.....or maybe the video games are getting on your mind and I dont know what kind you play but...some of them...of course as a mother think that they can get into your brain and work on you, as with movies etc.....oh well prob didnt help you in the matter but.......just my thoughts....Carmel :)
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Postby Mars » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:49 pm

mind if i cut in?

i do agree with anti on this one. i think dreams come more from creativity than expression. do you ever remember being in that state right before you fall asleep but you are barely conscious, and your mind just wonders on about random things?
i think dreams are just that. our mind wondering on about random (most of the time) irrelevant things.
even if you faced something traumatic when you were little and dream about it in the present. its really no more than you just basically thinking about the event and reprocessing it, just like you would do if you were awake.
dreams are nothing enlightening. other than it stating the obvious in more of an abstract way.
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Postby Mark N » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:41 am

Hi all

I think a nice way to try to start to analyse your dreams is to remember how you felt during your dream.
Did you feel happy, scared or all powerful. Then have a think of what makes you feel the same way in your waking state, sometimes doing it this way you can start to piece together what your brain is trying to work through.

Just a thought.
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Postby Milamber » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:45 pm

Mars wrote:i do agree with anti on this one. i think dreams come more from creativity than expression. do you ever remember being in that state right before you fall asleep but you are barely conscious, and your mind just wonders on about random things?
i think dreams are just that. our mind wondering on about random (most of the time) irrelevant things.


I don't think anyone has ever tried to say that dreams are only a mechanism for processing emotions. Just that if emotions need to be processed and don't get that need fulfilled during waking hours then dreams are the vehicle that they use.
There are many different types of dreams and reasons for dreaming. I am no expert, but I'm pretty sure we still don't understand it all - far from it.
Many theories state that often our dreams are ways of making sense of some new piece of information, or fitting something in that doesn't seem to have any "straight" associations, so it invents metaphoric ones so it can be stored away. Such theories do not clash with the emotional sandbox concept but run alongside it (and are not all that dissimilar).

Of course, if we need certain types of dreams to "make sense" of the world, or store new ideas, but emotional metaphor dreaming is taking place too excessively due to depressive cycles, then it only stands to reason that our ability to relate things or remember things is going to suffer as a consequence. We do indeed see such side-effects, but whether there is a causal connection is open to conjecture I think.

Going back to the original post, I'd say it is not always possible to interpret dreams - even those that seem steeped in metaphor. But the hell/ satan/ world domination example gave me some ideas.
It made me wonder if it is related to your feelings of total independance, Antigreen. Perhaps you feel that others are judging you when you feel they have no right - and hence you get "thrown to hell", but then you excert the "superiority" you feel and end up dominating them all.
Just a thought. It could just be pure "random thoughts" and fantasy, with no inherent meaning.

But I believe you may have missed a point about the list of basic needs.
These basic needs are common to all humans. It is often the *very fact* that some people do not believe they have some of these needs that can lead to psychological problems that express themselves in other areas.
The brain is also very good at building up a compelling picture of why we believe what we believe. So if you believe that you do not need other people then you will naturally paint everything in that light, so that it strenghtens your belief. Likely you have come to believe, for example, that needing contact with other people is a weakness?

Whether you agree with me or not that this could be the case it is worth looking at yourself - especially the words you used in early postings in this thread - as if you were someone else looking on. Compare what you have said to what I just said about our brains effectively burying our basic needs and see if you see a pattern. At least notice the pattern, whether you believe the conclusion or not. I won't suggest that as you do so you might find that it becomes clearer, but if you can improve yourself in any way I'm sure you'll agree that is a good thing?

I hope that something in my ramblings makes sense to someone :-)

Regards,

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Postby Mars » Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:13 pm

2 ago i had 3 dreams. 2 i could barely remember.
one was sort of a sexual fantasy with a girl i didnt even know. this girls was someone that went to my highschool. ide never talked to her but she was pretty popular. at no time had i ever thought that she was hot. i think the only reason she popped in my dream was because i remember seeing her at a gas station that same day
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Postby Overstreet » Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:25 am

You don't have to believe you watch the history channel. Dreams at night reflect what we experiance dorring the day.
I say the mind is processing reality.


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