Rats and death

Postby jimmyfiend » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:41 pm

Has anyone ever heard of an experiment in which rats were found to die when faced with an impossible situation?
If so could you please tell me the names of the scientists responsible for the experiment, thanks
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:42 pm

Years ago the Duke University psychology department did an interesting experiment. They

wanted to study "survival." To do this they took some Norwegian warf rats and divided

them into two groups. The first group they put in a large container of water. They also

hooked up a spray of water on top of the container to spray into the faces of the rats who

would swim in the large container of water. One by one they took a rat and put it in the

large container of water and timed how long they would swim before they drowned.

THESE RATS WERE GIVEN NO CHANCE OF ESCAPE. The rats who were

placed in this hopeless setting were able to swim for approximately 17 minutes before

drowning.

A second group of rats were cast into the large container one by one, except this time, at

around the 15 to 16 minute point (just before they exhausted their strength), the rats were

rescued. When they had finished their study with this group, they found that rats who were

placed in the water, then saved, and then placed in the water again later (with THIS

TAUGHT AND ACQUIRED HOPE OF BEING SAVED), were able to swim 36 hours

until they drowned!

where there is hope......

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Postby wolfke » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:52 am

Does anyone think this is an unethical experiment?
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:00 am

Yes, no doubt about that IMO. Guess it depends on your views on animal testing though.

Strangely this classic experiment is the one that christians like to quote about hope. It was a christian website that featured the description I pasted.

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:05 am

This also reminds me of something I heard in a movie recently. Cannot remember what film but I think it was a tarantino or something, possibly Christopher Walken telling the story I think, could be wrong.

It is the tale of two mice that fall into a pot of cream. One gives up and sinks and drowns, th other kicks so hard and doesnt give up, the cream thickened and he climbed out.

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