Can the charismatic persons also be able to listen

Postby xelenax » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:51 am

Before to begin my post I apologize beforehand for my bad english.
i'am italian and i'm tryng to learn English.
I chose this forum to start combining my passion for psychology with the desire to learn English.

I wanted to answer to post “why some people are charismatics” but is locked, I don’t know why, so I start with a new post to hanging up the topic.

My question for you is : Can the charismatic persons be also able to listen the needs of the other persons?

In the last post we told that the charism depend from the situation here you are.
I think the charisma grows with the growth of their strengths, but also if you have enough self-esteem.
More skills you have, more self-esteem you develop, more you are a charismatic person because you show to the other all your great potential.

I can take the example of my dance teacher: when she dance on the stage she is a goddess, she communicates sensuality, passion and we are hypnotized by her.
But, if we put my dance teacher in a swimmingpool or in front of a computer she returns to be a “human-girl” because she isn’t skilled in these disciplines. She ceases to shine.

And then I wonder if you are good in many disciplines, in natural state, automatically you show at all your skills, in every situation, and if you put yourself on display, you can’t snatch the personality of the others, you automatically put in the shade the others. Or not? Is that so?

What do you think about?

PS Off Topics: thank you very much for the patience, if you want correct my text in a correct English language, (in a pvt message) I thank you very much beforehand for your help.
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Postby ellla » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:56 pm

xelenax wrote:Before to begin my post I apologize beforehand for my bad english.
i'am italian and i'm tryng to learn English.
I chose this forum to start combining my passion for psychology with the desire to learn English.

I wanted to answer to post “why some people are charismatics” but is locked, I don’t know why, so I start with a new post to hanging up the topic.

My question for you is : Can the charismatic persons be also able to listen the needs of the other persons?

In the last post we told that the charism depend from the situation here you are.
I think the charisma grows with the growth of their strengths, but also if you have enough self-esteem.
More skills you have, more self-esteem you develop, more you are a charismatic person because you show to the other all your great potential.

I can take the example of my dance teacher: when she dance on the stage she is a goddess, she communicates sensuality, passion and we are hypnotized by her.
But, if we put my dance teacher in a swimmingpool or in front of a computer she returns to be a “human-girl” because she isn’t skilled in these disciplines. She ceases to shine.

And then I wonder if you are good in many disciplines, in natural state, automatically you show at all your skills, in every situation, and if you put yourself on display, you can’t snatch the personality of the others, you automatically put in the shade the others. Or not? Is that so?

What do you think about?

PS Off Topics: thank you very much for the patience, if you want correct my text in a correct English language, (in a pvt message) I thank you very much beforehand for your help.



Can a Charismatic person be empathetic?
is this what you are asking when you say '"be able to Listen" Because you also mention snatching a personality?


If it is what you are asking then this will depend on how they arrived at being "Charismatic" if they became this way by working on their Ego ..it's likely the answer is No they are unlikely to be empathetic .

However if they were naturally Charismatic ..the answer is likely to be yes ..very much so. For example my brother who is a successful businessman is extremely charismatic , but naturally so.

People like him, trust, him and rely on him to fix what is wrong in their lives ..if not personally then by proxy.

And yes he is empathetic, he is a nice person who has a sense of responsibly. Knowing people rely on him to fix it, or put what's wrong right . He does listen very much so.

This personality can also be seen in other people who are naturally Charismatic. Empathy is often an additional trait many possess.
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Postby Roland Evans » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:12 am

Interesting question. I think you may be confusing "charism," which is a special spiritual gift or power, with "narcissism" which is the ability to draw people to you because of the power of your ego.

I know and have know many people with charism. They have a spiritual aura that is compelling, a brightness of their being that in pictures of saints is shown by a halo around the head. They are totally present, attentive and engaged with the moment and who ever is around them. The way they listen is healing to the soul.

Narcissist, particularly those of the benevolent rather than malicious type, have inflated ego energy that tends to sweep away their audience. They are fascinating, brilliant and superficially engaging but they are really only concerned with the way they are reflected in their adoring audience's eyes. They often do not have the capacity to enter into real relationships and thus are unable to listen without referring back to themselves. When they are not on stage, their brilliance dims and they are often demanding, entitled and pushy.

Hope that helps.
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