angry, lonely, frustrated

Postby lighthouse » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:55 am

well, today i really messed up. i got upset at work to the point of yelling, and no one stopped me until i was done yelling. I work in retail. I went to pick up my check and it was only about half of what I thought it would be.
After work when i went to straighten it out, the lady that is in charge of schedules, hours, etc. showed me what my mistake was. I had failed to read in very fine print in the store handbook that we only get paid vacation for part time help after two years. I only received 11 hrs. out of 30 hrs. vacation time I requested. My voice raised slightly (I thought) and yes i probably started to argue. She said, "you know You're yelling at me and you yelled at my assistant earlier today!" This really upset me more that she accused me of yelling. Then I just got so angry! she said, "Do you want to talk to a Manager?" I was so angry! I agreed imediately, but i had a feeling everything was going according to her plans, but no reason why that i know of. She led me into the Manager's room, and I was still so angry, finally, she called the store Manager in there, and he said to me i had to calm down, I said I didn't have to . He also said. "nobody yells at me!" I said, " At this point I don't care!" this story goes on and on. But to make a long story short, I pretty much made an _ _ _ of myself. I'm going to have to work extra hours to make up for the lost time.
Here's the situation; I used to be very passive with my anger, and i would quit before anyone would know I was upset. I would have used an excuse that sounded good for quiting, and not the real reason, and they would never hear from me again. Now I want so much to be assertive and to work out my differences and to keep my job, however, I can get very angry, and aggressive, instead of that middle road. you know where you say your part and recognize you have to accept and move on if you can't change something? I really wouldn't be surprised if i get fired over this, but so far, they haven't, I've only been given more hours!
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Postby satanstoystore » Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:02 am

when people are immersed in their emotions/experience, trying to get info from them can be elusive. So if it seems like I'm egging you on, I'm really not.

What's important about getting your vacation pay?
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Postby TalkToMe » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:12 pm

Yeah, anger is very tricky because we can feel like we are in control of our emotions and thinking straight, when in reality we're really off the wall. I used to keep a tape recorder with me when I was working and I once came across this woman who was angry at her husband. She began to become angry at me too when I was trying to rationalize with her on logical options. I asked her if she realized that I was not her husband and that her yelling at me was scaring me. She insisted that she was the calm one and that she was not yelling and I had to replay her voice on the tape recorder for her to finally realize that she had in fact been yelling at the top of her lungs. The point of this is that anger makes us think with our emotional minds rather than our rational minds and this can get us into trouble. When we are angry, we tend to confuse assertiveness with retribution or revenge. We become so enfused with the idea of being the dominant one, or the right one, or the superior one, that we lose sight of the greater picture. My mentor once told me, "Speak out of anger and you will make the greatest speech you will live to regret."

My students sometimes ask me, "Well, isn't it good to be assertive? Other psychologists say to turn anger into assertiveness." I tell them sure assertiveness is better than using anger, but the problem is that it becomes too easy to make assertiveness into a opportunity to make a personal attack on the other person. I pose the question, "Would you go to a job interview while you were drunk, even if you know what to tell them?" The logical answer would be 'no' because you run the risk of saying or doing something stupid or embarrassing. It's better to cancel that interview, sober up and then tackle the interview another time when your head is clear. When you feel you are angry, don't go deeper into it--instead take a break and handle it when you're fresh.

But hey, it sounds like you recognize and you even admit that your anger got the best of you in that situation and I'm really proud of you for that. Thats the hardest part--to admit that our emotions got the best of us. What that tells me is that you are learning from that experience and you are consciously trying to improve yourself through your interactions. I have no doubt that you will be a success if you keep at it, afterall, I was the same way!!! Keep it up, OK?? You're doing good!!!!
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Postby lighthouse » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:30 am

Yes, I hope I learn something from this! I can tell you I'm not feeling so good at all right now. I wonder if I should quit? It seems like I've done so much damage, but even now, I don't want to quit. I get really stubborn, but isn't this already a sign that the job is causing me a lot of stress? I'm having a hard time trusting myself. What about the next time? Yes, I'm worried there will be a next time. I think it could be better to quit, then leave more humiliated, embarressed, etc., nothing is working out for me. I got a D in my math class this summer. I don't see my way through to ever have a college degree. I'm to late to enroll in fall classes now. If I don't graduate by spring I have to take an additional 21 credits according to a letter I received from the President of the college I go to. I'm just spinning my wheels it seems and getting nowhere in life. At least when I was more the passive type I could keep a job until I quit. Anyway I appreciate your response.
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Postby lighthouse » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:43 am

Okay! another post by me! I get what you're saying! I was to angry to be assertive, right?? I had several thoughts to go home, and come back later. Even after she took me into the manager's office, there was a few minutes in there by myself, when I strongly thought, just leave go home, and this can all be fixed later. I am learning more, and more not to react, but this just caught me so off guard! ...and the well being of my children is involved. I could get by on any amount of money, but when it comes to my children, I can't stand the thought!
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Postby TalkToMe » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:37 pm

Hey,

I'm glad you're learning more about how your anger works. You're right about getting angry when your children are involved. It's programmed in us to protect our young. Unfortunately, we can no longer attack the other side without facing even greater consequences ourselves and its just because of this reason, that other people threaten to take away our needs in order to provoke us into reacting out of anger.

It sounds like you have a lot on your plate, so to speak. I know exactly what you mean and how hard it is to tackle so many barriers to success. Don't let that get you down though. Focus on one thing at a time, rather than the entire package and just attack the problem in bite-sized chunks. Don't let anyone pull you down by making you angry either. Dont give them that opportunity to pull you back down. Imagine that right now you are stuck inside a dark forest and can't find your way out because there are so many tall trees and branches obscuring the path. Change your perspective by climbing a mountain and looking over the forest to find the path home. What I'm trying to say is that focusing on the bigger picture is a lot easier than on the current barriers. Keep your heart on that goal and work your way towards that goal. You'll make it...Just don't give up on yourself. Ok?
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Postby storms » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:32 am

dont be 2 hard to urself, in this kind of circumstances, its simply easy 4 anybody to feel sooo bad ! have u ever thought about getting any help?
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