Omega-3 fats seem to cause me anxiety

Postby dav1307 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:47 pm

I wish I could figure out why, maybe it has to do with liver metabolism, or some kind of allergic reaction/immune reaction. I can't find many people that have similar experiences.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:24 pm

I haven't heard of that either. I suppose if it were fish oil and it was spoiled (also not uncommon) then it would contain high levels of histamine, which is a problem for some. But that's a lot of if's! What sort of dosage were you taking?
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Postby dav1307 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:47 pm

Roger Elliott wrote:I haven't heard of that either. I suppose if it were fish oil and it was spoiled (also not uncommon) then it would contain high levels of histamine, which is a problem for some. But that's a lot of if's! What sort of dosage were you taking?


It's just 1 tablespoon. Regular dosage. Includes fish oil and flax oil, and I think macadamia nut oil which has a relatively higher omega3 to omega6 ration of 1:1 compared to something like olive oil.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:20 pm

OK, so if that was fish oil only, that would be a pretty high daily dose (if it's daily). But with the macadamia in there, which is (from memory) a nice balance of mono and saturated fats, it sounds like it might be a fairly standard dose. I've done a few searches on paradoxical reactions to fish oil and found the odd semi-related discussion, like here:
http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com ... ation.html

Not sure about this one, but it sounds like a good reason to not be taking fish oil!
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Postby dav1307 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:51 pm

Thanks for the article!! It is very interesting about rosacea. This might help me figure out why I can't do omega3's.

FYI I don't take fish oil anymore. Even if I just take 1 tablespoon out of the blue I will feel the negative effects for the rest of the day. I tried macadamia nut oil the other day b/c I read about the health benefits, but I felt similar to the way I do with fish oil for the rest of the day.
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Postby paulo111 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:27 pm

I used to do fine on just omega 3, then when I had a tablet with omega 3, 6 and 9 it used to cause all sorts of issues for me I think it was causing inflammation or aggrevating something leading to inflammation. I have read on the SIBO mailing list that omega 3 can aggrevateleaky gut syndrome or make it worse. Do fats in general cause you issues, or just omega supps? Id ask your qustion on here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sibonation/ there is a few real gurus on there on this kind of thing. It would also mke sense to get your omega levels checked if you can (fat was a real issue for me I used to get excess ear wax which is linked t omega deficiencies), a test similar to: http://www.biolab.co.uk/index.php/cmsid ... atty_Acids

And getting triglycerides measured would also be interesting.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:49 pm

That's interesting that you feel unwell 'for the rest of the day'. How soon after ingestion does it affect you?
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Postby dav1307 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:07 pm

paulo111 wrote:I used to do fine on just omega 3, then when I had a tablet with omega 3, 6 and 9 it used to cause all sorts of issues for me I think it was causing inflammation or aggrevating something leading to inflammation. I have read on the SIBO mailing list that omega 3 can aggrevateleaky gut syndrome or make it worse. Do fats in general cause you issues, or just omega supps? Id ask your qustion on here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sibonation/ there is a few real gurus on there on this kind of thing. It would also mke sense to get your omega levels checked if you can (fat was a real issue for me I used to get excess ear wax which is linked t omega deficiencies), a test similar to: http://www.biolab.co.uk/index.php/cmsid ... atty_Acids

And getting triglycerides measured would also be interesting.


It's just fats with high omega3 it seems like, but olive oil seems ok and so does ghee butter. I'll check out that yahoo group. And try to get some blood work done. Thanks!
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Postby dav1307 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:08 pm

Roger Elliott wrote:That's interesting that you feel unwell 'for the rest of the day'. How soon after ingestion does it affect you?


I seem to notice it an hour or two after eating.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:41 pm

So something to do with the fats hitting your system, rather than an inflammatory reaction further down the GI tract. I'm lost for suggestions though I'm afraid. It will be interesting to hear any results from an EFA profile though.
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Postby Denley » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:00 pm

Omega-3 is very effective for the health. I have also used this supplement. There is no side effect and you can use It without any hesitation.
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Postby paulo111 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:04 pm

Denley wrote:Omega-3 is very effective for the health. I have also used this supplement. There is no side effect and you can use It without any hesitation.


But he just said he gets a side effect of anxiety when taking omega -3 so clearly for some people is does indeed cause side effects? Any supplement can cause issues for people. In fact ironically when you start to get a mineral you are deficient in into your body it can lead to detox, a symptom of detox is excess anxiety. I've had this before, all blood work showed I had low vitamin D, for the first 2 months of taking vitamin D spray my anxiety stepped up, so I had to lower the dose, until the anxiety (and detox) was less, then 2 weeks later up it a little, monitor symptoms. After a while I could tolerate it much more.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:31 pm

Just a quick thought Paulo - I have read that because vits A and D are so interactive, a deficiency of A can lead to problems taking D. How's your liver intake? :)
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Postby paulo111 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:38 pm

Roger Elliott wrote:Just a quick thought Paulo - I have read that because vits A and D are so interactive, a deficiency of A can lead to problems taking D. How's your liver intake? :)


My vitamin D levels are ok now, and I think the core of the issue was malabsorbtion. I also had my genetics tested, and I have a "VDR Taq" double mutation. VDR Taq is the vitamin D receptor: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16101324
Which makes me prone to low vitamin D, albeit last time I checked my levels were ok.
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Postby Roger Elliott » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:23 pm

It's important stuff alright, as the recent news stories have shown. I remembered where I read about this in case it's of interest:
http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-o ... ns-a-and-d
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