Question:Self Hypnosis and Pain Control

Postby RogueLeader » Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:08 pm

I am new to this board (and the subject of self hypnosis) and am still a bit skeptical. I have tried many treatments, both traditional and alternative, for debilitating cramps. I would be willing to try self hypnosis but I am still unsure how it would actually work. All the online information I have read seems to suggest that it is really only to help relax the patient to help them better cope with the pain on an emotional level. Rather than to actually decrease the pain. It almost sounded as if they were saying that "pain is all in a person's head anyway." I can assure anyone that this pain is not all in my head. I'm 32 and am ready to start a campaign for a hysterectomy if something cannot be done about it. I need real pain reduction...not relaxation to help me cope better. I'm tired of coping...I want relief. Any suggestions?

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:14 pm

There is of course another possibility. You will no longer need your pain to be reduced because you will have dealt with the cramps. I suggest you satisfy your scepticism and seek out the advice of a hypnotherapist skilled in the rapid relief of your difficulty.

Either way pain responds well to hypnoptic techniques. Most people are happy to lose lots of their pain, strangely some like to keep a little. You can of course deal with those cramps.

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Postby RogueLeader » Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:39 pm

What do you mean "dealt with?" You mean eliminated? If that's the case, then how would they go about it? And do you think I should try first with a CD that is a self guided variety or actually go to a live person. I live in the US (Maryland). Is there a recommended list that I can go to. I'd rather not just chose someone randomly. Thanks again!

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:10 pm

Yes I mean cramp free when I say dealt with. That must be considered as a possibility. Is it one you have considered before now? The pain is a signal. I know you do not wish to hear 'the pain is in your head' but pain is in your head, even if it is in your foot. A hypnotherapist is not going to treat your foot.

I know little of self hypnosis tapes or their effectiveness. I listened to some when I was younger and enjoyed the visual exercises but then fell asleep, from reviews I have read, some people find them effective for pain relief. I am a hypnotherapist but I do not give my clients tapes. I prefer to give them the ability to take themselves into a state of mind where they can deal with pain or whatever else in a satisfactory way.

I am based in the UK and cannot recommend hypnotherapists in maryland. Unless someone else on this group can help, I suggest you visit the international hypnosis and hypnotherapy group on Yahoo! They will be able to provide you with recommendations.

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Postby RogueLeader » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:40 pm

Thank you so much Anthony. I just joined and posted to the group. Hopefully I will get a reply. And honestly, I don't know what I considered before now. I know that pain are signals from nerves traveling through the spinal column. But I've tried pain medication, diet changes, herbs, castor oil packs and accupuncture. They have all helped a little. And believe me...they are an improvement over doing nothing. But it is just taking the edge off. I'd really like complete relief. Life it too short to be in pain. I am relatively young and am in otherwise excellent health. May I ask how you take your clients into such a state of mind? Is it that the power of suggestion is powerful enough to convince them that they are not actually in pain? Or is it that it is actually a more relaxed state of mind overall so that the pain is not noticable? I have read enough about the mechanics of cramps (caused by an excess of prostaglandins in the bloodstream) to understand why they happen. But dietary changes are not fixing the problem. Leading me to believe that my body has become "set" somehow to experience pain. My accupuncture doctor suggested that I also try meditation but I don't think the two are the same. Dealing with the pain in a satisfactory way for me would be to not feel it at all. The meditation is nice but it's not making pain end. I don't think the two states are the same but I am unfamiliar with hypnosis to know for certain.

Much thanks again to you over in the UK,

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Postby Roger Elliott » Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:22 am

Rogueleader

I think skepticism is a healthy thing, especially if there is a lack of evidence. However, when you look at the fact that many people undergo major operations under hypnosis every year, you can clearly see that hypnosis can be used to treat pain.

The research shows in these cases that pain signals are still created by the nervous system but not 'processed' by the brain into the perception of pain.

Good luck getting help

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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:39 pm

Rogueleader,

hopefully you have had some response from a hypnotherapist in your area. Try to seek out someone with a reasonable amount of experience of dealing with pain. I am not a pain specialist but I have helped people with pain pain they expect to live with, and pain they anticipate having (an op,examination). After they have tried regular treatments from a doc and got nowhere or only have an unsatisfactory diagnosis, I really attempt to find the reason behind that signal whizzing up your spinal column. It is not a perfect system and just because a pain is physical does not mean its source is not mental. I appreciate that some people struggle with this concept. The state of mind I would take you into is the same state of mind any competent hypnotherapist will take you into - a trance. This does not have to be the kind of trance you could have your leg amputated in. It only needs to be deep enough that we can use some techniques to identify the meaning of the communication - the reason for the pain/cramp.

I am not an expert on meditation but at a basic level at least I believ the most you are likely to attain is some altered state of mind akin to the kind of altered state that might be induced by a hypnotist. Yes this could be useful in taking your mind off the pain for a while. However that same state of mind can be used to trace the route of that pain back to source and be replaced with another thought.

For one in pain I appreciate this sounds very simple and a bit miraculous but I am a practical man with little time for flowery mystical approaches and explanations. The pain is a signal a message. It also leads to its source.

Meditate on that and see if anything occurs to you.

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