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by tagfat » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:00 am
Hi Kablija.
Re. literature on OCD:
Edna Foa and Reid Wilson published "Stop obsessing! How to overcome your obsessions and compulsions" which is the bedst book on OCD I have seen.
Also Adrian Wells' book on "Cognitive therapy of Anxiety Disorders" has a very interesting section on OCD, but it might be heavy reading if you are not an accedemic yourself.
It is extremely important that you have an accurate diagnosis though - and know what diagnostic criteria that you actually meet. Could you state more clearly what kind of symptoms that your diagnosis is based on?
Re. literature on OCD:
Edna Foa and Reid Wilson published "Stop obsessing! How to overcome your obsessions and compulsions" which is the bedst book on OCD I have seen.
Also Adrian Wells' book on "Cognitive therapy of Anxiety Disorders" has a very interesting section on OCD, but it might be heavy reading if you are not an accedemic yourself.
It is extremely important that you have an accurate diagnosis though - and know what diagnostic criteria that you actually meet. Could you state more clearly what kind of symptoms that your diagnosis is based on?
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by tagfat » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:14 am
I am not an expert on OCD to say the least. But to my mind that is exactly OCD symptoms and if you dont have a lot of other untold of problems adding up to constitute some other diagnosis I'd say that OCD is what you should seek treatment for.
Tourettes syndrome can have OCD like elements like the ones you describe, but it would not normaly be as anxiety motivated as OCD is. Did you ever have a tendency towards compulsive foul language or provoking gestures?
Do you have any thoughts about what would happen if you didnt imitate (or kill)?
Did you read the section on "repeaters" in Foa's book?
The reason why some people have repeating, checking or other OCD-behaviors is that it is reinforced by the experience of axiety-reduction. Some stimulus makes you anxious and your try out behaviour X. Now if X is continued long enough it will be associated with stress-relief for no other reason than that most instances of anxiety will decline in a matter of seconds, say 30 seconds. If you have a tendency to find small rituals reassuring that is what you will grab for if no sensible alternative presents itself. So small rituals become heavily associated with (natural) reduction of anxiety to a point where it will be your reaction whenever you have fears that are not clearly suggesting some rational behaviour.
Tourettes syndrome can have OCD like elements like the ones you describe, but it would not normaly be as anxiety motivated as OCD is. Did you ever have a tendency towards compulsive foul language or provoking gestures?
Do you have any thoughts about what would happen if you didnt imitate (or kill)?
Did you read the section on "repeaters" in Foa's book?
The reason why some people have repeating, checking or other OCD-behaviors is that it is reinforced by the experience of axiety-reduction. Some stimulus makes you anxious and your try out behaviour X. Now if X is continued long enough it will be associated with stress-relief for no other reason than that most instances of anxiety will decline in a matter of seconds, say 30 seconds. If you have a tendency to find small rituals reassuring that is what you will grab for if no sensible alternative presents itself. So small rituals become heavily associated with (natural) reduction of anxiety to a point where it will be your reaction whenever you have fears that are not clearly suggesting some rational behaviour.
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by kfedouloff » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:50 am
We could get into the labelling difficulty again here, I think. Would it make life easier for you, Kablija, if you knew for sure that it wasOCD? There certainly seem to be some similarities - and people with autism spectrum disorders also often display these kinds of behaviours (mimicking, balancing, checking) to reduce anxiety - but that doesn't mean that you have an autism spectrum disorder either.
Might it be more useful just to think about one behaviour at a time, without trying to fit it in some pigeonhole? (I'm not knocking diagnosis, you understand, I am wondering about what progress you can make aside from diagnosis.) If you find that a certain behaviour pattern of yours causes problems of some kind for you, it is emininently reasonable for you to explore ways of modifying that pattern so that it stops causing problems, or causes fewer problems.
So, if you looked at the various behaviours that concern you, which one would you pick as a) giving you enough problem to be worth doing something about and b) most likely to be amenable to some intervention? Then we might be able to brainstorm on some ideas you can try!
Kathleen
Might it be more useful just to think about one behaviour at a time, without trying to fit it in some pigeonhole? (I'm not knocking diagnosis, you understand, I am wondering about what progress you can make aside from diagnosis.) If you find that a certain behaviour pattern of yours causes problems of some kind for you, it is emininently reasonable for you to explore ways of modifying that pattern so that it stops causing problems, or causes fewer problems.
So, if you looked at the various behaviours that concern you, which one would you pick as a) giving you enough problem to be worth doing something about and b) most likely to be amenable to some intervention? Then we might be able to brainstorm on some ideas you can try!
Kathleen
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