Dealing with manipulative behaviour

Postby InnocentVictim » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:57 am

Hello, this is my first post here. I have an issue that has been going round in my head and would appreciate some input. I have, as have most people, had several people in my life who use covert agressive and manipulative tactics to get what they want and control me. (lies, guilt trips, misdirection, vilification, shaming, distortion of facts, flattery, distraction, seduction ect...)It has been pointed out to me (and I agree) that I am a very trusting person and even quite reluctant to identify negative intentions in others, always thinking the best of people. I am, however, not stupid and once I understand what is happening I manage to deal with these people quite efficiently.

I am interested in avoiding these kind of relationships from the start, and it has crossed my mind that if I act suspiciously to new relationships, a manipulative person might refine their techniques and it would take even longer for me to identify this type of person, leading to a waste of time.

So I have decided it might be better for me to continue entering into new relationships in a trusting and slightly 'naive' way, thus encouraging potential manipulators to put their cards on the table from the start. However, what I am worried about is that maybe this kind of attitude might encourage people to act in a manipulative and covertly agressive way who might otherwise not do so.

any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated, also I would be interested to hear about any experiences people have had or techniques people use in dealing with these kind of people.
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Postby Triarius » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:51 pm

You sound like me!

I had a very manipulative friend. I was described as having a very "open" demeanor and I always looked for the best in someone and I never really paid attention to the reality of any situation.

There is a skill which I will describe - I don't have a name for it though I guess I should find one...

Anyways, this skill is learning to pay attention to the little voices in your head when you're dealing with someone. You'll get a little tiny "bell" going off in your head when you perceive that someone is lying or being manipulative.

After living with my former room mate for 3 years and putting up with his constant bs and manipulation, I am VERY good at identifying lies and stuff like that. But I still have to consciously gauge what someone's intentions are. I have to stop and listen - not analyze.

I got integrated into my brother's circle of friends and upon meeting new people I stayed very attentive to what my subconscious was telling me about the people I was meeting. For some reason I just didn't trust some of them. It turns out I was right, even though I couldn't put my finger on why.

Trust your instincts about people! Don't be afraid to be judgmental - just don't voice any opinions until you know for certain.

our circle of friends now excludes all the liars and dramatic people.
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Postby InnocentVictim » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:41 am

Thanks for the reply seta37. I think you are right, I also sometimes get gut feelings about people, I just often lack the confidence to trust my own judgement, and I tend to automatically assume that I am wrong and others are right. Maybe the fact that I am waking up to this issue shows that my self esteem is improving...
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Postby manonmoon » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:45 pm

First and foremost, be secure and confident in who you are and what you do. Other peoples' actions ideally should not reflect upon you.

For instance, changing your habits when meeting new people to "weed out" the manipulative people in itself is manipulative behavior.

Beyond that, in my perspective I think you and seta37 are on the right track!
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