Harsh Reality of bulimia and purging is...

stella_blues wrote:I have to get a back tooth pulled. It can't be saved. This is what regular purging does. One of mmany prolems it causes. Stomach acids are designed to break down organic matter. Teeth are no exception. Even tho I rinse with baking soda after every purge session (baking soda is a base and nuetralizes acids.)And I brush and floss once or twice daily. There's really no way around it. You will lose teeth. Period.

If you want to know the psychonutritional approach to eating disorders please read:

Eating Disorders

My dear Jurriaan, if only it was so simple.

stella_blues wrote:My dear Jurriaan, if only it was so simple.

And it is!!

jurplesman wrote:

stella_blues wrote:My dear Jurriaan, if only it was so simple.

And it is!!

Well, I'm not obese. Neither am I underweight. I'm within normal BMI, on the lower end. So I'm not thinking I have an overriding physiological issue (though I don't know for sure.) Also, I'm very physically resilliant and healthy. Friends say I sometimes "glow." I took my trash to the dump the other day and the man running the machine asked if I lift weights!

I know my purging behavior is directly linked to stress. When I'm not chronically suicidal, I'm into the eating disorder stuff. When the eating disorder stuff quiets down, I'm into self harm. And then back around in the circle again. One substitues for the other. So that seems to point more to a psychological issue.

On the other hand, the purging behavior does throw my metabolism completely out of whack. I know my electrolytes and blood sugar levels are all over the place from one hour to the next. My NP has me get lab blood work once a month or so to make sure I'm not too over the top.

I am sure that if you were devote some time to the connection between nutrition and metabolic disorders relating to your eating disorder, you will be able to cure yourself. The idea it is all"psychological" is a sheer delusion.

If not, I suggest you get a referral to a Nutritional Doctor. Your problem is treatable!

jurplesman wrote:I am sure that if you were devote some time to the connection between nutrition and metabolic disorders relating to your eating disorder, you will be able to cure yourself. Your problem is treatable!

You know, I should apologize. I've never tried your method so how can I say it wouldn't work?

That said, the foods I'd need to eat wouldn't likely pass through my mouth! I crave junk food and have little compulsivity control. I wake up in the morning and have a heathly breakfast (usually a protein like eggs or yogurt and fruit, sometimes I go out to the garden and "graze" on greens- I especially love sorrel- yum!) and promise myself I'll eat well the rest of the day. And then the cravings hit. And I'm so addicted, I can't stop myself. Believe me- I try!

stella_blues wrote:

jurplesman wrote:I am sure that if you were devote some time to the connection between nutrition and metabolic disorders relating to your eating disorder, you will be able to cure yourself. Your problem is treatable!

You know, I should apologize. I've never tried your method so how can I say it wouldn't work?

That said, the foods I'd need to eat wouldn't likely pass through my mouth! I crave junk food and have little compulsivity control. I wake up in the morning and have a heathly breakfast (usually a protein like eggs or yogurt and fruit, sometimes I go out to the garden and "graze" on greens- I especially love sorrel- yum!) and promise myself I'll eat well the rest of the day. And then the cravings hit. And I'm so addicted, I can't stop myself. Believe me- I try!

The cravings is caused because the body lack biological, energy called ATP, that is necessary in the conversion of nutrients (such as tryptophan) into neurotransmitters (such as serotonin). Without that energy you cannot feel happy. Hence the body forces you to produce energy by making you crave for high energy foods. This will make things worse.

One way of overcoming these cravings is taking GLYCERINE. Go to our web site and go to INDEX and look up GLYCERINE. Glycerine bypasses insulin stimulation and is used as energy (ATP) and should stop sugar carvings. Also read:

Sugar Craving.

Let me know how you go.

jurplesman wrote:Let me know how you go.

Will do. Thanks.
So far, not so good. I'm having a problem with my support system and it's really aggrivating my need to eat for comfort. It's like it has a mind of it's own. I've been healthy things, at least. Humus and salt fee pretzels and grapes and coconut.

I weighed in, today. (I weigh in every Friday.) I've lost another three pounds since last week. Part of me feels gratified and another part feels like a total loser (no pun intended!) A failure. I'm still within normal BMI (20). I had to get blood drawn and my NP was actually disapointed they came back borderline, but normal, bc she wants a reason to hospitalize me. I can't be mad at her, though. She just wants the best for me.

hmmmm

afshaanfatema wrote:hmmmm

I know, right?

Another of the joyful moments of chronic purging- my gag reflex disappears. VERY frustrating. When I purge too frequently I desensitize myself to gagging, which needs to happen in order to purge. Which means the intrusive thoughts and urges for food are still there, but I know a very big part of the deal isn't operational! Sux.

Don't brush your teeth right after the acid from your digestion causes the enamel on your teeth to soften. Don't brush use mouth wash, brush will brush your enamel away very easily.

Have you tried OA?

Google me @ thepowerinyounow OA and new thought patterns saved me for the chains of Bulimia.

Never Never Ever, Ever give up hope

thepowerinyounow wrote:Don't brush your teeth right after the acid from your digestion causes the enamel on your teeth to soften. Don't brush use mouth wash, brush will brush your enamel away very easily.

Never Never Ever, Ever give up hope

Thank you for the tip. I'd heard this before. What I do is completely clean my tongue (there's a thick layer of mucus) and then rinse with a strong baking soda solution. Baking soda is a base and neutralizes the stomach acids. I also swallow a bit of the solution, to cleanse my esophagus.
I don't think there's really any way to avoid enamel damage entirely thought.

I'll google your suggested site.

Thanks-

Hi Stella, Please go and se a properly qualified nutritional doctor. There are so many biochemical reasons why people suffer from eating disorders. It's in the body, not the mind.
See:
Natural Treatment of Anorexia and Bulimia by Julia Ross