Does Anybody Diserve to Die?

No one deserves to die, no matter how evil they are. Don't get them wrong, many murderers regret every living moment, after they kill someone. And the ones who don't; something made them snap, being enviroment, or just insanity; I still feel sorry for them, because it was human nature that caused them to kill.

the difference between good and evil is slim, and some people evil slip in between them constantly. Robbing to feed your family, killing for a good cause, sometimes you need to just think on their side of the story for a little bit, instead of looking at one page of the fifty page report.

What seems like evil to one person, might seem like good to another. This is what causes war and differences, and defines us as the humans race, savages.

ThyGuy wrote:No one deserves to die, no matter how evil they are.

There are certain people that definitely deserve to die a very painful death for their crimes.

I live in a state where they still use the death penalty by the way.

Just because you think someone deserves to die, doesn't mean it is right. Just because the government says someone deserves to die, doesn't make them right either. It simply a opinion, and nothing more, just as what I said was the same.

I totally understand your point of view.

I just have a different view!

I understand completely, and sorry if the last comment seemed rude. I certainly didn't want it to sound like that. I can understadn the severe frustration, when somebody does something to someone else, and I try to tell myself that they are acting like humans, and letting those human instincts drive them.

The reason think they don't deserve to die, is because killing them, simply resort to their level, and even some murderers could change (1% of them), and we can give a vicious child molester a second chance, why do we not give a killer the same chance?

Does anybody diserve to die?

well......!!!
what i think...>>
it depends..!!!
nobody deserve to die.
it does not mean that you have got the licence to kill and rape.
these people can be cured and bring back to normal state ..
one can do such kind of experiments in JAILS. In India one police officer Mrs.Kiran Bedi is doing SUCCESSFULLY this kind of work since many years.
and it is very challenging hard work.
it is true that it is not always possible, many times you dont have time, before it is too late you have to save many lifes or innocent people in that case one cannot avoid to kill.

There are certain people that definitely deserve to die a very painful death for their crimes.

no need of painful death...only DEATH is enough.
why it should be painful?
give anesthesia before u kill, if u can not avoid it.

I don't think anyone deserves to be put to death on our judgements. In saying that, I'm not sure how I would feel if someone hurt my son, I only hope I would have the strength to forgive that person. I certainly would not want that person to be free to hurt others but nor would I want them to be lying on a gurney saying their last rites because my hatred has put them there.
The best way, I feel, to deal with someone who has done wrong would be to try and rehabilitate them. When writing this I can only imagine what type of a childhood many prisoners have had. Socially, this world needs a kick up the butt! To kill someone because they've killed is to become something of a hypocrite.
Lest we not forget that many death penalties come about because of politics.

My view comes from the fact that I was raped a few years back.

I've had all the medical help/therapy I feel I need, and on a daily basis I get by, but its something that runs through my mind every day. Other than walking my dog around the few blocks where I live, I dont go out alone. I'm fine with my male friends, but I'm not too good with strangers so sometimes things are tough. I cant tell you in a paragraph how hard it is just to accept and move on and deal with this every day.

When I really struggled to do this, the man that did this to me was effectively stealing a good couple of years of my life from me.

Maybe I'm not being fair thinking like this, but if I was told he was going to be put to a very painful death, I would be over the moon! Rape is physically painful - I want him to feel that too. (Yes, I know I'm thinking revenge!)

The other side of the coin was prison therapy and rehab for him. Never in a million years would I trust that therapy is gonna make him better and stop him doing this again to me or any other woman. Letting him out with the view that he's 'all better now' is not going to make me feel safe and trust that he will go on to love and respect women.

So I guess my point is, its very easy to be fair and treat all equally and put people like that into therapy and until its you/your wife/your daughter thats been through it. Men are more likely to be targets of drunken rage/road rage. Again, at which point do you stop forgiving? When do you make criminals accept responsability for their actions and make them pay the price rather than assuming their actions are the result of something else and they need help?

From a cold point of view, Its the tax payer that has to support people like these in prison and put them through their therapy (and yes I'll probably get slammed for this!) and I'd rather not bother!

Has anybody seen Clockwork Orange? or read the Book?

No, haven't seen the movie or read the book but I do know that Alex and his gang are extremely violent.

Hi Glitter
Thank you for sharing your traumatic encounter.
I understand and respect your opinion.

The story is basicly about asking the question what is more evil. Letting people who hurt other people people be who they are, or having a world where violent people are programmed to be incapable of violence ever again. Alex is an out of control youth who is the leader of a violent and psycotic gang of hulagins, rapists, and thieves, he enjoys life as a pirate of sorts. when he is finally caught after he accidently goes too far and murders a women who he had intended to rape (which in the book is considered a less offensive crime) he is arrested and is offered a chance at rehibilitation by way of a new method that some psyciatrist has come up with. They give him this medicine that makes him exstreamly sick to the stomach and then forces him to watch very violent images on a screen by prying his eyelids open and tieing him to a chair. wars, atttacks, Nazis, death he sees all of these horrible things over and over again, they also happen to play batoven when they show him these images, he loves batoven. the sickening feeling he gets from the medicine is remembered in the brain as being related to the violence he witnesses on the screen. and so after mounths of this treatment anytime he gets into a situation where he wants to use violence he gets very very ill. also because he had to listen to batoven, that music too makes him sick. after he gets out of the treatment he encounters every person he has ever hurt in his lifetime and they hurt him back. sense he cant defend himself he is completly vulnerable. in the end he gets over his condition by jumping out of a three story window.

From a cold point of view, Its the tax payer that has to support people like these in prison and put them through their therapy (and yes I'll probably get slammed for this!) and I'd rather not bother!

from a broad point of view -
1) meditation cost zero rupees/dollers (no tax payer)
2) you are talking about ONLY FEW people who definately deserve death
3) i was talking about both ..those who can be changed and those who deserve death
4) people suffered from war and violence can join the army, take revenge and keep the cicle of life going on or go into meditation and try to make the world more peaceful
5) it is easy to drop the past conditioning it does not need any therapy in fact the past is no more but everybody has total freedom to live in the past memories and suffer.
6) i am agree with your point that there are people (criminals) who will never change.

So I guess my point is, its very easy to be fair and treat all equally and put people like that into therapy and until its you/your wife/your daughter thats been through it.

who's not been through it?
welcome to the planet earth. everybody is going through it.

I can see where you coming from but how can we say to two different people serving prison sentences for the same crime:
'Hey, we can rehabilitate you, you can live'
'Hey, there's no way you're gonna change so you deserve to die'