Love is a delusion

#30

Postby RereRara » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:54 pm

Sorry nullity - but there are a couple of 'facts' which are just ridiculous assumptions.

nullity wrote:There is no such thing as love, or romantic love. It is a culture constructed created in the 1600 s by knights in England.


'Romantic Love' wasn't constructed by knights in the 1600s. I think you are confusing things with 'courtly love' which was a medieval coneception of chivalrous love which appeared around the 11th century in Europe.

nullity wrote:Women like tall guys, and this is biological.

I'm more into guys who are just a little bit taller or the same height as me actually. And I know many women who don't dig tall guys (or actually most of us don't even care that much!)

I'm sorry if you got hurt by someone you loved - but don't be so bitter about love. Love DOES exist, I've felt it before and just because I don't feel it any longer that doesn't mean that it wasn't real.

Just don't give up on it!
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Postby E.Dannie » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:56 am

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Postby fueledbyhatred » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:09 am

Maybe u have never experienced it thats why your angry son.
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Postby thefool » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:03 pm

Why would anyone have to "believe" in love? Or disbelieve it for that matter?

We all know the feeling, in so many different shades of grey. It exists, that much is obvious, but what is it? As many nuances as there are individuals, no doubt. Through whatever cultural or social influences we attach spiritual meanings and significance to what is ultimately a culmination of basic human emotions. Philosophical concepts of truth are mixed in the mingle... ie. "true" love. Another meaningless term devised to haphazardly grade the quality of experience of anyone's emotions in this matter.

Whatever love means to you, is whatever it means to you. There were no promises made about the nature of love, there were never any guarantees provided, there was no "standard" of love... ever. You never cheated nor blessed by "love". You just feel whatever you feel, and if you don't like what you feel, then you need to change what you feel.

If you're thinking "easier said than done", then that's because words can not describe experiences, only give you a basic rundown of them. Words are to experiences what a manual is to a car. They may all appear the same, but drive and notice the difference!
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Postby shahidmian » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:30 pm

nullity wrote:There is no such thing as love, or romantic love. It is a culture constructed created in the 1600 s by knights in England. For much of human history, we can see that unions/marriage are formed by common need to past along properties to the next generation, or to form unions between countries, and families. Another explanation is that Human mind like to rationalize attraction, while in reality, it is biological, and socially constructed. Women like tall guys, and this is biological. This "feeling" is rationalized by the mind as "love", but it is just her genes tell her that the guy is a worthy mate.
do believe in love, and not that silly feeling that passes after a matter of months or even years, true love that some people not even experience.
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Postby shahidmian » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:30 pm

nullity wrote:There is no such thing as love, or romantic love. It is a culture constructed created in the 1600 s by knights in England. For much of human history, we can see that unions/marriage are formed by common need to past along properties to the next generation, or to form unions between countries, and families. Another explanation is that Human mind like to rationalize attraction, while in reality, it is biological, and socially constructed. Women like tall guys, and this is biological. This "feeling" is rationalized by the mind as "love", but it is just her genes tell her that the guy is a worthy mate.
do believe in love, and not that silly feeling that passes after a matter of months or even years, true love that some people not even experience.
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Postby speakerfritz » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:31 am

romantic love is often refereed to erols love. many never experience it. those who do, often experience it early in life when they really are not mentally prepared for it. Of all the different types of love that a human can feel, the basis of a romantic love is the chemistry that occurs when both are highly physically attracted to each other...a primitive love to say the least. there are at least 5 hormones at play here and fall into 3 categories. The brain is reacting to a chemical soup that overwhelms reason and logic.

the greeks believed that there was 5 types of love, and if we accept that for now, erols love is just one of them. it is quite possible to be involved in an arranged marriage, have children, and spend a life time with someone and never feel erols or romatic love, just a few of the othe five.

so you can love someone, and be loved by someone, and never be in an erols or romatic state.
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Postby lidablack » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:43 am

If it's not love, then what would you call it when someone has intense affections for someone else, enjoys spending time with them, and may even be willing to make important sacrifices for that person? That seems a little more than just biological to me.
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Postby thefool » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:21 pm

lidablack wrote:If it's not love, then what would you call it when someone has intense affections for someone else, enjoys spending time with them, and may even be willing to make important sacrifices for that person? That seems a little more than just biological to me.


Intense affections could be infatuation, a simple biological process with a simple biological purpose. Enjoying someones company is a basic feeling to social species, like us. Forms of altruism or symbiosis are imho simply an extension of human needs. When you have seen to you own needs, it seems a lot of people desire to tend to other people's needs. Care-giving it seems is one of our instincts, and it also makes sense as a survival tactic, so more power to us, yay!

Anything and everything human beings do is ultimately "biological", because we are purely biological. Love is just a combination of emotions that serve all kinds of purposes. Does that make it any less important, or valuable? I don't see why, it is what it is.

I also don't see why it would be "an illusion", like i said, it's just a combination of feelings, and it has many different meanings for many different people. There are as many definition of "true love" or "mr/mrs right" as there are human beings probably.
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Postby narcissismcured » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:19 am

Marrige n love are two diffrent things but are reciprocal links to each other love can lead to marrige n marrige genrate love between two unknown persons one more thing dear the feeling genrate by looking someones appearance is called attraction love develope through beauty of ones nature.

i think u got my point so discreminate well next time
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Postby freedom80 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:11 pm

love when young is dangerous because it can scare you for life. Not understanding why something so special didn't work can drive someone insane
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Postby George L. » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:47 am

Yes, a delusion as a concept to attach ourselves to.

But a reality as the essence of life.
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