Love is a delusion

Postby nullity » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:25 pm

There is no such thing as love, or romantic love. It is a culture constructed created in the 1600 s by knights in England. For much of human history, we can see that unions/marriage are formed by common need to past along properties to the next generation, or to form unions between countries, and families. Another explanation is that Human mind like to rationalize attraction, while in reality, it is biological, and socially constructed. Women like tall guys, and this is biological. This "feeling" is rationalized by the mind as "love", but it is just her genes tell her that the guy is a worthy mate.
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Postby Zuriel » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:13 pm

...anger? It just sounds kind of angry... :?:
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Postby Rebekah Bean Curley » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:12 pm

i agree, it sounds like..a bad experience? or maybe a few.

I do believe in love, and not that silly feeling that passes after a matter of months or even years, true love that some people not even experience.
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Postby hatedrain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:43 am

I love my husband very much and let me tell you he isn't George Clooney. But he does make me happy and smile and laugh. He is the warmth that stills my heart. I do hope you find that someday. If not- I hope you can do that for yourself.
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Postby nullity » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:42 pm

No, I am not angry. I just study history, and no where in the history of any culture, and society in the world marry someone for "romantic love" before 1000 years ago. Being funny is just an indication of how smart the guy is, and a sign of good genes.
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Postby hatedrain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:17 pm

I am sorry you feel so alone in the world.
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Postby freedom80 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:12 pm

Replace the word love for happiness, now that's not a fabrication of soceity is it. If someone said they were very happy they probably would not question love because they would be "Loving". The word love does not have to be complicated. Its about finding a good friend basically and some you are physically attracted to. You compromise with the right person the one who you are most compatiable and have like minded interests with, over time and with trust you will become very happy..in my view what more could you ask for.

I'm not saying its easy because I would be a hypocrite if I said that but all I'm saying is don't give up hope. I truley believe there's a reason to be hopeful.
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Postby DarenBowel » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:52 am

Hello,
Love is one of the awesome feeling in everyone's life. I believe in love.
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Postby Zuriel » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:25 pm

I read a story last night about a guy who did not believe in "love". As the story went, he put forth extreme effort to disprove that love existed. Then one day, he met a woman who, like himself, believed love did not exist. Thus the two began their lives together. They were extremely happy, never judging, never jealous, never fearing. This "confidence" stemmed from the idea that they truly "expected" nothing from each other. They would "give" their lives to each other in amazing ways. One day, while away on a trip, the man discovered that he missed the woman. He decided he had fallen in love without even realizing it. He could not wait to get home and share his "discovery".

This is when it all fell apart...when he returned home, he spoke with the woman he had fallen in love with. He told her how he felt. This was the fatal mistake. Love, which existed only because each was reponsible to themselves, was now being loaded up with expectations. He made her responsible for his happiness. His "expections" that his happiness was because of her was what destroyed the loving bond they shared.

Moral of the story...we are each responsible for our own happiness. We can each ONLY give love. Through this "giving" we experience the ultimate happiness...the ultimate LOVE...Gettig love from others is not possible...it's not the nature of love...Love is truly a one way emotion...an outpouring of our souls and energy to the world around us...sharing...

Nullity, this may be why you feel love does not exist...you may be trying to "get" rather than "give"????
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Postby northstartracy » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:16 pm

I wonder when you had this revelation? could it be after your heart was broken. You know pain is an example of love lost ? which proves its existance
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Postby Magnus Ward » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:13 pm

Most things are delusions. What matters are the delusions you believe.

In this case we have measurable hormones. And if you know anything about women, you know that the physical side of it is far less important that the character side. It does come down to a "worthy mate" but that has more to do with your character than anything.

I guess the answer is... So what?

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Postby Beloved » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:34 pm

Ask Marilyn 
by Marilyn Vos Savant 
reprinted with permission of Marilyn

Is "falling in love" nothing more than a cruel biochemical trap? The chemicals responsible for the wonderful feeling we call "love" evaporate after a year or two, leaving us wondering what happened. During that time, many of us have married, produced a child, altered career paths and bound ourselves to someone in whom we then lose interest. Under what conditions does "love" survive this chemical exit? Is there any way to tell early on what's going to happen? Or did our caveman ancestors, who apparently practiced serial monogamy, do what we are really designed to do. As a young female biologist who used to be happily romantic, I have become hopelessly cynical about the situation. Can you help? What is romantic love anyway?
M.G. Pittsburgh, Pa.

I think that romantic love is essentially all psychological in origin and that it's the presence of this attitude that produces the chemicals that send us soaring. After all, if those reactions were produced by casual physical proximity, we'd be easily attracted to all sorts of people who just happened to be nearby, and we know that's not the case.
For example, suppose a bear is crouched outside our front door, and we don't know that. If we merely approach the door, nothing will happen. But if we open the door, our psychological reaction will bring us one heck of a chemical jolt. Our mental processes turn on the body chemistry.
Now suppose there's just a stray dog out there. We may still have a chemical reaction, but it'll probably be a weaker one. And it may be a positive reaction. Our attitude toward stray dogs -- and this particular one -- will make the difference. Humans are unique among animals: Our incredibly powerful minds mediate our behavior.
So I believe we become psychologically interested in another person for a multitude of individual reasons, and if the interest becomes intense, then chemistry begins to take part. But we need that attitude first. Together, I think, those two essentials -- psychology plus biology -- constitute what we call "romantic love."
Unhappily, if psychological interest wanes, chemical reactions will wane too.
This alone is a reason for long engagements. Much interest will ebb within a year or two. And, for many, it will continue to diminish with each passing year. If love remains, it will be either the friendly or the familial kind. So, after a long engagement, if the kind of love left is sufficient -- a precursor of the situation to come -- we can go ahead and get married. And as the married years go by, if this love is positive enough to satisfy us, we'll stay married.
This doesn't mean we'll be fulfilled. Consider what tends to happen when someone falls out of love psychologically. Without children, there are fewer obstacles. With them, at least the partners will have the kids as a common interest. (This is why so many marriages become stale after the children grow up and move out of the parental home. Some marriages may even become unstable if and when the kids lead truly separate adult lives.)
And if the marriage is sturdy, he or she will have the comfort and security of friendship. This is no small reward for decades of selfless devotion, Having a cherished companion in life is surely a worthwhile goal for a marriage. But the physical result is the same: disinterest. Sometimes the disinterest is so profound that the person almost completely shuts down sexually.
If such an individual ever becomes intensely interested in someone again, he or she is often shocked, not to mention thrilled, when that old chemical magic returns. And no wonder it's so thrilling. Romantic love -- psychology plus biology -- inspires us mentally, keens the physical senses and opens the purest avenue of communication between two people: body and soul. When these feelings are shared, the two lovers awaken to the delights of simply being alive in such a way that people who have never experienced romantic love cannot possibly imagine.
But the biggest question remains: What about psychological interest that remains strong enough to keep those precious chemical fires lighting up our lives? That is how can we have romantic love that stands the test of time? (And to those disillusioned young people like you who wonder if it even exists, I assure you it does; I know it for a fact.) If you ask me -- and you did --I'd say there's good news and bad news.
Romantic love depends on personal interest, which usually starts with a likable fresh face but can continue only with persisting curiosity (something like the way we're endlessly fascinated with certain famous people). It escalates -- often greatly with growing personal stature and professional success.
The good news is that if we are continually broadening our capabilities, extending our intellectual reach and becoming increasingly desirable in the world, we' ll inspire that personal interest. Like a great metropolis or an expanding universe, we'll be unknowable -- probably even to ourselves. But this is not usually the case; in fact, it's not even common. Relatively few of us will find the time -- or take it -- to live an ever-enlarging life, but those who do will always be romantically intriguing.
The bad news is that we can't make anyone else do this. In other words, to a great extent we can choose to be desirable, but we can't make our partners choose to be desirable. So, while we can go a long way to keep others attracted by us, there's little we can do to continue to be attracted by them. We don't flunk chemistry, chemistry flunks us. In other words, even if we do everything right, it still takes two to dance life's most radiant tango. And, in my opinion, that's the heart -- and disappointing crux -- of the matter. We cannot control the appeal of another human being, nor should we try to.
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Postby accuratepsychic » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:03 am

The most important thing in life is to learn how to give out love, and to let it come in.

For girls, ind a guy who calls you beautiful instead of hot, who calls you back when you hang up on him, who will lie under the stars and listen to your heartbeat, or will stay awake just to watch you sleep... wait for the boy who kisses your forehead, who wants to show you off to the world when you are in sweats, who holds your hand in front of his friends, who thinks you're just as pretty without makeup on. One who is constantly reminding you of how much he cares and how lucky his is to have you.... The one who turns to his friends and says, 'that's her.'”

For boys, well, just don't screw it up.

I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be no more hurt, only more love.
Best regards!
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Postby Zuriel » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:20 pm

Accurate...your posting is 100% irritating! If I were to guess, I would say you are about 13 years old.

Your descriptions have nothing to do with love and acceptance...they are ENTIRELY about manipulation!!!
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Postby accuratepsychic » Thu May 05, 2011 12:45 am

it's a free country. don't tell me what i should/ should not do. am i "violating" your rights? no. so please, no name calling.
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