Lonely? Need (Aggravating) People? Maybe A Cat Will Do.

Postby Leo Volont » Sun May 24, 2015 2:24 pm

In the Anger Management sphere of interest, we find so many people who, if more or less just left alone by themselves, would never be angry, as for example, disconnected telephone calls don’t bother them… they simply redial; or their computer acts flakey all day long and these people do not as so much utter a ‘tinker’s ‘dingidy dong’’… they are at peace with themselves and their, well, rather isolated universes. But it is the frustrations and perceived disrespects of other people, who in these cases instigate troubles, that tend to trigger the angry episodes experienced by our otherwise calm and peaceful ‘isolationists’. Yes, yes, yes, it is our job here to provide people with the support and help to withstand any abuse, any indignity, any humiliation, all while being able to calmly and serenely react and respond to the worst situations Society can throw at them… as though they were American White Bread in Paris… But, really, My Oh My, supporting and training all these essentially Nice People to withstand the barbaric attacks of the Hordes of Rude People out there, well, it is difficult, isn’t it? … and, what’s more, if we could only tell them to avoid all of those, really, contemptible Rude People – all those people who trigger their Angry Episodes, well, they would no longer have a worry in the World. In fact, it is sad that it is all put upon us. We are only going through so much trouble because, well, so many people are barbaric, rude, and uncivilized and do not know how to behave. And the governments are too cheap to include Civilized Behavior in the Core Curriculums of their Public Schools, or too prissy to sentence Manifestly Rude People to death, to graciously save all the Civilized People the trouble of having to deal with them. Yes, of course, I have a great respect for the Value of Human Life… but isn’t a Rude Person worth less than Nothing?

So, in addition to all the advice we give regarding how we should all deal with those Terribly Rude People, well, shouldn’t we add a word of advice on simply avoiding all unnecessary Social Exposure…. To stay clear of the beastly multitudes. Of course they can go out shopping. “The Customer is always right”. In the majority of retail establishments, the salespeople and service reps are extensively trained in being, well, as civilized as we wish everyone else were… except in France…and maybe some bureaus in New York, where the Upper Management are so barbaric themselves that they don’t quite see any ‘barbarism’ in their employees worth correcting. But most everywhere else, if you are wearing the Hat of Consumer and Customer, you are perfectly safe… oh, as long as YOU aren’t the Barbarian. So many Customers give Service People and Sales People a terrible time. The Working Retail People are only doing their jobs, and any Civilized Person, who has an issue with some product or service, should be ever smiling and patient, all while the Wheels Turn, ever slowly, for the problems brought forward to be resolved. Staying Friends with the Service People only helps in all of that. Anyway, if YOU aren’t the problem, then you should have no problem with Shop People.

But, when advising relative isolation, well, SO many people feel that they need Life Companions… Mates… Partners… Spouses… that is, to welcome potential Barbarians through their Gates. Really!? These such People have the potential to be the worst perpetrators of all the rude and disrespectful triggers we can receive. Why ‘On God’s Green Earth Where the Sky is Blue’ would anybody in their right mind attempt to establish some constant relationship with such a potential threat!? It is not as though you can actually meet a person and get to know them… NO! People keep their Barbarism a big Secret until it is too late! Here! Let me tell you a story… Even a Psychologist friend of mine, when I was back in my Dating Age, advised me to… really, he did…to do everything to make myself likeable and attractive in order to gain the favor of those people I would want to, well, ‘seduce’… he didn’t use that word, but that is surely what such advice intends. But that advise was not so very original, was it? Such thinking, and such Dating Behavior is, well, Universal, isn’t it? Nearly everyone who wants a Relationship is posing and pretending in order to get it. And they keep it up until they get a Commitment. You don’t meet the Real Them until they think it is too late for you to back out (oh, by the way, it is NEVER too late to walk out…. Just do a ‘one-eighty’, find the door, and leave… oh, grab your best stuff first… going back for it later is always, well, so awkward, and it spoils the effect of your dramatic exit, no?)

But, the fact IS that people do get lonely and need companionship. But they think they need other people… like the Barbara Streisand Song “People Need People”. Well, not really. Studies have shown… people studying ‘Cat Ladies’ in order to isolate ‘Cat Ownership’ as some kind of a Dysfunction… well, the Studies kind of back fired on the original intent, and found, unexpectedly, that Cat Ownership (well, up to certain point) was indeed healthy. It was found that people who had a ‘good companion relationship’ with a cat were just as well benefitted as those who had a good companion relationship with another human being, as rare as that is in these days were everybody only thinks of themselves and doesn’t care what offense they give to others as long as they can manipulate and maneuver, complain and bicker to get their own way… meaning that you are more likely to strike up a good relationship with a cat than another Human Being (and you can’t take the other Human Being to the Kennel if it doesn’t work out…). Also it should be considered that no man ever lost his house and had to pay alimony to cat that he decided he hated and wanted to get rid of.

Even before reading these studies, about the companionship of cats being so beneficial to Human Beings, well, I sort of found out about it by accident. There had been a Situation building up in my Neighborhood – some ‘overflow’ kittens from a Cat Lady who couldn’t really feed all the cats she already had were going about begging and scrounging. Anyway, one little skraggle cat accosted me while I was walking past… a little kitten, yelling at me for me to feed it (I had had cats as a child and so I already knew their language…). Well, okay. So I went up to my rooms and tossed it out something. Well, it became my friend. I would keep a window open for ventilation, and it would come in and sit on the arm of the sofa where I would read a book just a few feet away. I would ‘thump’ it a few times when I would give it food, and scratch its head sometimes, but that was IT. Nothing big. No hugs. No kisses. But, as I used to go OUT several times a week, well, now I began to stay home. Even some Friday and Saturday Nights I would stay home. I was saving a Ton of Money and was glad, but I REALLY had no idea why I was turning into such a home-body. Then I read that Research Paper! MY GOD! I thought…. My Life has been stabilized because some silly cat sits on the Arm of the Sofa!? Well, I guess so. The Research was Right. It seems that a scraggle cat was all the companionship that I really needed.

Oh, this is not to say that Dogs may not be just as good, or even better. Perhaps they are. But dogs need to be walked or they will poop or pee anywhere, and unless they are trained they may be troublesome about chewing up expensive shoes and such. And dogs will whine and cry for attention, and they may have fits of destructive frustration when left alone too long. But cats, for the most part, are staid and independent, clean in their habits, and while they offer their companionship, are not often needy and dependent and overly bothersome about it. Cats are great.
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Postby laureat » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:08 am

Companian such as dog, cat,
It is really good because it simulates a positive state of mind
I dont know too much about the cats
But dogs for example, it can help people out of depression
Because dogs want to play, and gets excited
And so it simulating positive state, playing, excitement

And because you are having a good time,
It is possible that your approach social life will get better
It doesnt mean that you have changed your mind about the fears, frustrations you had before
But as your approach gets better, and you feel better that may possible change your mind

Running away from social life, does not help you to change the mind about social life, to change how you feel about the job, people around

companions, sure, it is cool
It simulates positive state of mind
But one also has to understand to get comfortable in social life
You go there, you face the fear or frustration, and you search for options to surrender them, so you can relax
So you can understand how to approach better, respond better in social life
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Postby Leo Volont » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:18 pm

laureat wrote:Companian such as dog, cat,

….Running away from social life, does not help you to change the mind about social life, to change how you feel about the job, people around

companions, sure, it is cool
It simulates positive state of mind
But one also has to understand to get comfortable in social life
You go there, you face the fear or frustration, and you search for options to surrender them, so you can relax
So you can understand how to approach better, respond better in social life



Dear Laureat,

Thank you so much for responding.

Well, I can see your point about avoiding Social Life, in that we should try not to run away from things we should face. But the word ‘should’ is a very important word. Sometimes we can evaluate the available Society and rightly determine that there really are no ‘should’s when it come to mixing with such people. For example, suppose that a person was brought up to High Culture, well educated, and then lived for years immersed in the most Civilized influences. And then he takes a job where he must live and work in a Working Class district. What then is ‘his’ Society? He would know nobody who shared his tastes, appreciated his music, comprehended his art, or ever heard of a single one of his 10 top favorite books. They would complain of not understanding him… how he uses ‘big words’ to show off. Honestly, this is his Society, and it is simply, well, not very good advice to NOT tell a person to avoid it. Low people are not good influences.

Indeed, it has always been recognized that the higher one goes, the lonelier one gets. It’s obvious. The Pool of Possible Friends gets smaller as the Standards and Criteria become more rigorous – High Standards call for High Thresholds.

Indeed, that is why many people prefer Cats to Dogs. Dogs, while friendly, often lack dignity, and Dignity is something that most cats more than a year old have in spades.

Thank you again for responding.
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Postby laureat » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:42 pm

I like lots of what you say and you are welcome
But why are you saying cats have more dignity?
Dogs have dignity
Lots of them are so proud of themselves
Even though they are pack oriented
Why you need to make negative statement about dogs? Lol
Such as poo and pee
Dogs learn fast poop is not a problem
Dogs are more cool than cats lol


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Postby Leo Volont » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:34 pm

laureat wrote:

….But why are you saying cats have more dignity?
Dogs have dignity
Lots of them are so proud of themselves
Even though they are pack oriented
Why you need to make negative statement about dogs? Lol
Such as poo and pee
Dogs learn fast poop is not a problem
Dogs are more cool than cats lol




Dear Laureat,

Well, you got me. That is if you meant that I thought that Dogs have NO dignity. Reading over my post, well, that is an inference one could reasonably make from what I wrote. But, no, I can’t hold with that. I’ve known some Pomeranians with dignity (rather too much for their own good!). So, of course, one can have a dog with some dignity.

However, I intended to mean that with Cats, well, Dignity is more of a ‘Sure Thing’. While one must search for a dog with dignity, well, it seems like one can lure any cat off the neighborhood trash bin, and, given a few weeks for it to clean itself up, well one will have a perfect regal Queen (yes, and fussy about food… even after you remind it that when you found it, it was hungrily rooting through garbage for anything not noticeably poisonous, by how soon Dignity arrives at High Standards of Taste and Aesthetic Discernment).


But, yes, I never intended to imply that some dogs are not very cool.

In fact, I had wanted to get a Dog when I retired… so I would not have to leave it alone at the mercy of all my cats while I went off to work. But when I did actually retire, well, I felt too lame to be able to ‘walk it’ on schedule. But that was when I was practicing Music. Now, Music is very demanding. For me, one has to stand up while playing… sitting down limits emotional projection and possibilities of technique. But at my age, it was very wearing. Since I quit Music to concentrate on Math, well, I feel that I am getting my legs back. It seems that I might soon get a Dog. Probably a Pomeranian … with enough dignity to keep up with the Cats.
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Postby laureat » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:39 pm

I agree dogs are more complex

For example They are pack oriented and if you keep them alone in the back yard, it is not their style and so they may become anxious, frustrated

Their anxiety simply means " my instincts do not suit to the situation "

Now because of that people say " dog has separation anxiety "
I still think we can simply say dog is born to be with a pack
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Postby Leo Volont » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:11 pm

laureat wrote:I agree dogs are more complex

For example They are pack oriented and if you keep them alone in the back yard, it is not their style and so they may become anxious, frustrated

Their anxiety simply means " my instincts do not suit to the situation "

Now because of that people say " dog has separation anxiety "
I still think we can simply say dog is born to be with a pack


Dear Laureat,

Wow! You think like a Scientist. You get into the Details to make sure they make sense. (as they say, the devil is in the details). Separation Anxiety simply means that they feel insecure without the Leader of the Pack around, being the Human Owner (if he is any good…. Sometimes Human Owners just want to be the dog’s ‘buddy’ , which means no Disciplinary Negatives (Bad Boy!) or Commands which must be obeyed before any ‘reward’ (telling a dog to ‘sit’ before you will put down its food, or to ‘stay’ while you get its leash for a walk)…. If YOU don’t present as the Dominant One, then one of the other Dogs will take the Job, and they won’t miss you at all.

But Cats, while more independent, are in fact Social Creatures, and they do recognize Dominance. In fact, it is often noticed that when a Household gets a Cat, that it often gravitates to a person who did not originally ‘get’ the cat. What the cat did, in fact, was to gravitate to the ‘Alpha’ Human – the More Dominant Person… at least as the Cat sees the situation. Or, wait, it may be more complicated than that. The Cat could also be looking for an Alliance. The Cat wants to be Dominant, and so looks for a Strong Second to help it Against the Most Dominant Human. My First Cat, when I was growing up, was not allowed to go upstairs. My Mother, In Full Command of the Household absolutely forbade it. So the Cat gravitated to Father and Sons who would condone its upstairs excursions.

So, yes, Cats are complicated. But Dogs definitely have to be put in their place, and the Human Being has to really stand up and take charge. The Dogs are even happier that way. Forced to be the Dominant One themselves, they are full of all sorts of anxieties…. They would rather just Follow the Leader.

Anyway, Laureat, your obvious ability to think on your own if very impressive. I quite admire it. I am proud to call you a comrade in this intellectual community of ours.
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Postby laureat » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:53 am

I don't know about that but thanks
I think you make a good point about companions because they simulate a positive state of mind which is beautiful

companions such as cat can also keep the house safe from the bugs which is really cool a specially if you have some creepy bugs around lol Cat would be really happy about while you can finally relax
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Postby Leo Volont » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:24 pm

laureat wrote:I don't know about that but thanks
I think you make a good point about companions because they simulate a positive state of mind which is beautiful

companions such as cat can also keep the house safe from the bugs which is really cool a specially if you have some creepy bugs around lol Cat would be really happy about while you can finally relax


Dear Laureat,

Oh Yes! Absolutely! You would not believe… or maybe you would… the number of really big dead bugs I find out in the middle of the open floor, sometimes, in the morning ( they come up through the bathroom flood drain line. and so I have to remember to squirt some Bug Killer down that hole once in while), but, yes, my 5 vigilant cats make sure that the devilish things do not creep and crawl over me all night… Oh My God! What a Nightmare! Well, a few of my cats are quite old, and I suppose they would be as alarmed as myself to be caught in their sleep with these Little Devils playing them for some City Park, but the Younger Cats are up and watchful, even when everything is the Darkest. God Bless those Shady Angels that protect us from even darker Demons.
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Postby nathes2016 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:20 am

often lack dignity, and Dignity is something that most cats more than a year old have in spades.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:56 pm

laureat wrote:I don't know about that but thanks
I think you make a good point about companions because they simulate a positive state of mind which is beautiful

companions such as cat can also keep the house safe from the bugs which is really cool a specially if you have some creepy bugs around lol Cat would be really happy about while you can finally relax


Oh Yes!

In my Life of Poverty, in a Run Down Ghetto Apartment, AT LEAST I do not have to worry about bugs crawling over me as I sleep... or if that DOES happen, well, I have 5 little 'people' to blame for it.... "Wake Up you Gooses! What am I Feeding you For? Get those Lizards!" .... they like Lizards the best, but will go after anything... if they are not all sleeping.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:04 pm

nathes2016 wrote:often lack dignity, and Dignity is something that most cats more than a year old have in spades.


Oh, Yes, you are right about that Year... or maybe a bit more.

My Newest 'Kitten'... the largest Cat in the House now, is barely two years old. and is finally showing some Dignity. Today I looked around when I wanted him.. and I did not see him. that is odd... usually he is Under Foot. So I called and I called, and after enough time for a Dignified Being to think about how to respond to a summons with all proper self respect, he came walking out, with a "yes, may I help you" expression in his eyes. I KNEW instantly that he had turned a major corner in his Development!... my Little Kitten had grown up!... I was happy and sad at the same time. But, yes, there is Still More... as the Years Go By they learn more and more about being Courteous about every little thing... for instance, the Older Cats will walk across my Math Study Table without stepping on the Dry Erase Board...
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