by psychorays » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:34 pm
I've had lots of issues like these in life. I'm mid 40's and have often been more troubled by verbal advice than helped by it.
Saying depressed people have problems committing to love relationships is like saying a kid who is drowning doesn't appear to want to swim. The depression is often their knowing they are finding things in life impossible to come to terms with - be it a job, family networks, meaningful friendships etc. which in turn leads to finding it difficult to come across a partner and present themselves as a viable 'other half' in the relationship. And if they ever come across someone they like they are highly unlikely to feel confident about saying ,
'Hi, I'm just me and this is all there is, what do you say we get together?'
And this holistic negation of what makes up many peoples reality often translates into a permanent underlying nervousness that no matter how well hidden, becomes magnified in certain situations, such as in social situations where there are lots of others with seemingly a better 'attachments' to discuss with any prospective partner. We do live in a materialist/ consumer / sexually advertised society and so all of these pressures build and weigh heavily against the confidence of any person feeling they fail in some of those areas. Furthermore such people can become entrenched in such a mindset and suffer social impotence as a result.
It's only ever when people regularly treat you in ways they treat other friends they have that will ever convince you everything is going as it should and that this is not a 'special show' because they feel sorry for you.
Guys have an extra problem because mostly women have an expectation of their behaviours, and if you've already failed in this regard it can feel like an impossible task to do what's expected of you - and you already know waiting for a female to make a move on you is a a non starter.
So I actually carried this sort of feeling around with me for ages - an inner feeling of reality which externally was invisible to all and which not a single person I knew ever was willing to talk through with me. It was a sorta problem like asking yourself what chance does a tramp of the street have of calling in at Oxfam, getting a change of clothes and a clean up, and then chatting to a woman, explaining his life situation, and her taking him as a genuine person whom she may fall in love with?
I've always carried this 'tramp' psychology around with me and I think mainly it's due to how I was treated when younger - like someone whose personal feelings don't matter, who should do as they are told and go where they are told and who should be thankful for it without offering an opinion.