will be like this forever?

Postby fraz » Wed May 19, 2004 9:53 pm

Hi i have just found this website and i m not really where to start,but here goes,i am 24 and have suffered from panic attacks for around 5 years now,i suppose like the everyone else i am very embarrasssed by my problem(probably because most of society are not very understanding toward mental health problems!)Anyway i have just recently started to suffer from these attacks and very high levels of anxiety again,i have been taking an anti-depressant called citalopram for over 2 years now,although during this time i have had a few shakey times,on the whole i am much improved,that is until i tried to come off them! i am now looking for advise if any one can help,i am going back to my gp on monday,i think i am in need of some cognitive behavioiural therapy(i have been to counselling before but although the lady was very nice,she did not seem very experienced in this field)but iam scared about how this will effect my job ie on the nhs i take it there will be a huge waiting list and probably be during the day? i am scared my whole work will find out and that would be terrible as people dont understand.
My past 5 years have been terrible i am afraid of every situation,i am scared to go to work in case i panic and have to come home,i m scared to go anywhere i m not in control ie cant get out of the situation(leave without embarassment) i m scared to go anywhere in someone elses car in case i panic and i cant just leave without everyone knowing why! can any1 help!
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Postby blueshoes » Wed May 19, 2004 10:50 pm

Hi Fraz,

It's strange I have just found this website this evening and your post (which was at the top) is the exact same situation I'm in. I am also 24 and what to see my GP for an NHS referral on Monday also, for CBT! How weird...

Anyway I have panic attacks mainly in the following situations:

restaurants
one on one social situations
the tube
and more...

This culminates in severe facial sweating which is very embarrasing and is what I dislike the most about it - if it wasn't for this symptom it wouldn't be so bad at all.

Anyway don't worry too much - I've been suffering for a number of years also but have realised worry doesn't solve your problem. You have to be brave, practical and keep at it. I realise that it is all bs and it can be overcome. You've just got to tell your brain (your sub-conscious it can and is possible).

tell me more about your attacks...

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Postby fraz » Thu May 20, 2004 11:12 am

Hi blueshoes

You wanted to know more bout my attacks,well its weird cos i was so scared of restaurants too,but its not so bad now,i am just so scared to go anywhere far away incase i panic and cannot confide in someone who understands,i believe its in your genes because my mum suffered exactly the same as i am now,and i no it sounds sad but if i go somewhere and i no i cant contact her it gets me really uptight. Over the past few weeks work has been really terrible,i am looking at the time every 5 minutes really counting the minutes,so this week i have stayed home,although i feel much better its only because i m not in the same situation,but i cant stay home forever,i m at my wits end.
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Postby kfedouloff » Thu May 20, 2004 12:02 pm

Hi fraz and blueshoes

You two seem to be having an uncomfortable time between you!

I should say, fraz, that panic attacks and anxiety are not so much in the genes as in the experience. If your mum was an anxious and panicky person, it is not surprising that you picked up her way of responding to things (this is not a criticism of her, by the way, it's just how it goes!).

Fortunately, it is possible to overcome these things. I don't know how long you might have to wait to see a therapist on the nhs - are you in a position to see a private therapist? It can feel like it costs a lot, but you could regard it as a really worthwhile investment!

Meanwhile, you could both benefit from the Panic Attacks course - it's free!

And do browse the forum - there's lots of useful stuff!

Good luck to you both!

Kathleen
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Postby fraz » Thu May 20, 2004 5:27 pm

Thanx Kathleen,i think it would be a beeter idea going private,although i am sceptical as to doing this as i do not know of any reccomended people in my area,can you help? I live in central scotland. thank you
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Postby kfedouloff » Thu May 20, 2004 5:44 pm

Hi fraz

Take a look at the Human Givens Register for a start. That should lead you to some good people.

Whoever you go to see, check that you feel completely comfortable with them. It's better to keep looking for a therapist who is right for you than to go to anyone you don't feel OK with. Don't be afraid to ask lots of questions, and get them to explain how they are going to help you.

Good luck!

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Postby blueshoes » Thu May 20, 2004 11:08 pm

Fraz,

Avoiding the situation doesn't work in the long run. If you choose not to do something because you don't want to do it that's different to avoiding it because of an attack.

I've been in this game so long now that I almost look forward (not really the right word), more challenge myself when I am scheduled to be in a situation where I've had an attack before - if you train your brain to look at the situation from a bee's eye view then sometimes it is not so bad. I think the more and more you do this the better it will get for sure.

It will take time though as I'm still suffering but I have confidence that I will center myself.

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Postby blueshoes » Thu May 20, 2004 11:10 pm

kfedouloff wrote:Hi fraz and blueshoes

You two seem to be having an uncomfortable time between you!

I should say, fraz, that panic attacks and anxiety are not so much in the genes as in the experience. If your mum was an anxious and panicky person, it is not surprising that you picked up her way of responding to things (this is not a criticism of her, by the way, it's just how it goes!).

Fortunately, it is possible to overcome these things. I don't know how long you might have to wait to see a therapist on the nhs - are you in a position to see a private therapist? It can feel like it costs a lot, but you could regard it as a really worthwhile investment!

Meanwhile, you could both benefit from the Panic Attacks course - it's free!

And do browse the forum - there's lots of useful stuff!

Good luck to you both!

Kathleen


Only problem with a private therapist is you have to be patient. Went to one for 3 months and was starting to work but I ran out of cash. £60 / hour every week was a big drain!

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Postby Graham Firth » Fri May 21, 2004 12:32 pm

Hi Blueshoes

It may be worth trying with a therapist again. I would expect that with the right therapist you would see real benefits from only a few sessions.

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Postby blueshoes » Sat May 22, 2004 8:06 pm

Graham wrote:Hi Blueshoes

It may be worth trying with a therapist again. I would expect that with the right therapist you would see real benefits from only a few sessions.

Graham


Hi Graham,

Yeah I think you are right. I may see one next week although I just received the panic prevention program on CD and think it's fantastic. I'm going to try this for a while and will let you know the results.

Take Care,

BS
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Postby sharonno12003 » Mon May 24, 2004 8:46 pm

HI FRAZ
I AM GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING I HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR 5 YEARS ALSO THE DOCTOR PUT ME ON CITALAPRAM AND PROPANOLO AND ABOUT 5MONTHS AGO DECIDED TO TAKE ME OFF THEM AND I HAD THE BIGGEST RELAPSE EVER. I CARNT GO ANYWHERE CAUSE I AM SCARED OF HOW I FEEL, I REALLY WANT TO GO OUT TO WORK BUT I AM SO SCARED OF THE PANIC AND ANXIETY. THE WORST THING AT THE MOMENT FOR ME IS THE BREATHING PART I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IM AM SO BREATHLESS LIKE I CARNT TAKE A NICE BIG BREATH. IF YOU THINK WE COULD HELP EACH OTHER OR IF YOU WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH PLEASE DO.
TAKE CARE
SHARON :D
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Postby utopiant » Tue May 25, 2004 3:43 am

Hi Franz,

Have you considered taking herbs? or herbal treatment? There are good herbs such as hops, holy basil, gaba which you can purchase in your local GNC stores. I have been doing research on the herbal solution for seven years now. Like you, I used to suffer from anxiety attacks and get embarrassment and avoid situations. But herbs are more better than drugs and do not have withdrawl syndroms. Also, it is good because it is a supplement (unlike chemicals) and nourishes your nervous system. (perhaps I should describe like.. taking protines to build muscle) It has been used for over 2000 years unlike conventional medication for 300 yrs only.

Now, I am pursuing my mba and I plan on writing my thesis on launching an herbal business for anxiety, depression, stress and PMS. My ingridients (amounts in mg) are propritary but I am using following herbs:

hops, Gaba, b-vitamins, holy basil, ginko, 5-htp.. to mention a few.

Hope this could be some help.
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Postby money00 » Tue May 25, 2004 9:42 am

Hy peps,

i am sufering from panic and anxiety and all of her terible simptoms 4 3 years. I have been to every therapist i cant find and i must disapoint u THEY CANT HELP U SO PLEASE SAVE YOUR MONEY. becouse of constant stress i have get helico bacter pilary so now i have troubles with my stomac. The best thing u can do is to read this free course and BE BRAVE. If you wana talk to me please PM me and i will explain all you need to know. U must start doing thing alone (i dont know what are ur simptoms and how u r feeling) if u cant ask someone u belive to go out with u first couple of times.
But stop depending on other people or u will be stuck with this ur whole life. I know it is hard to say be brave (i have trouble with that also but im trying every now and then i go with my car in city at rush hour if if panic start i call someone on phone and talk to him) so i distract my thoughts....... and so on and on and on

Stay brave friends and save ur money u can and only u can bet this not ur GP or psihiatric or reiki master, crystal terapist,...... i have wisit all of them.

If u need help i will try PM me
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