Is the Hypnosis genuine ?

Anyone can train to be a hypnotherapist. You can learn how to do it from a book.

You can find highly qualified people in any field in life who could be better at their job, and even recommendations in hypnotherapy might not find the right person for any individual.

Saying that if your daughter feels comfortable and trusts the therapist and the therapist benefits her in some way, it's all good.

Hi Julius,

Many thanks for your reply.

I believe we all started with books through our career paths, and at the end of university some of us even went on to progress with other professional qualifications which we may choose to put behind our names. That is great and I have no problems so far.

My objection is this, having only had a just reason to look into this field, the chances of potential fraudsters is rife with no apparent governing authority.

The guy in question is now obviously aware that I have potentially uncovered his scam and for the record, my daughter is far from happy with this individuals behaviour. Neither are we as parents.

Some here may be able to help and point me in the right direction, but the supposed qualifications are thus - NLP in Hertfordshire - Dchp, Dp, Pss, MAPHP, MNLP, MABH.

How do we check this ? How does anybody check this is genuine?

Many thanks.

Qualifications in this field are no sure sign of quality.

The fact that your daughter is unhappy is the key indicator.

Look for recommendations and then whether you feel that you can trust them.

How would you choose a hairdresser or a masseuse?

Hi Julius,

Many thanks for your reply, but unfortunately this time I do not share your sentiments.

I chose my hairdresser, clothes, food, and dog trimmer by sight, taste, touch, feel and awareness. This is a living trend which one does through life experience.

I chose my doctor, dentist, accountant, financial advisor, lawyer and surgeon through their known CV experience. Governing bodies whom regulate them help me with this cause.

If I discovered that my lawyer proclaimed to have qualifications that he didn't have, I know what to do and where to go to stop him from duping other potential customers.

Where do we go with the dilemma cited here in my previous post ?

Sure, she can now get recommendations and go elsewhere, but that doesn't stop the scammer mentioned in my previous post/s

I think the citizens advice bureau could help you with the trades descriptions act, a lawyer or possibly the police?

Anybody, help me out here please.

I have just Googled NLP.

It suggests a NLP is a 7 day course with no pre entrance qualification, and no mention of even an academic written exam at the end.

Is this true?

No mention of Dchp, Dp, Pss, MAPHP, MNLP or MABH even being qualifications.

I do know that M&S, AA, RAC and TESCO are NOT qualifications.

Hi Panorama,

If there is anything that would constitute a crime then the police is the first port of call.

It is unfortunate that these people are in this field; however they are in all fields including the political and law enforcement.

If there is an issue that you feel you want to recover costs then perhaps citizens advice and a small claims court is the best course of action and ALL therapists must have public liability insurance. But the problem is this industry is SELF-governing and even if they are affiliated to some group or organisation and they have these rights revoked there is NOTHING stopping them from continuing their work.

You have to shop around for the person that best suits your needs and has the correct qualifications to suit you, but please be aware there are NO qualifications in HYPNOSIS or HYPNOTHERAPY issued by any educational establishment only private organisation who present themselves as schools. Most have a very good structure and ethical stance but they cannot guarantee what their students do after.

I have counselling qualifications issued by AQA through a local college and then OTHER hypnosis certification.

With the counselling qualifications I sat nationally recognised exams, had to produce NVQ style evidence of my work and prove 50 hrs of voluntary contact which took me 3 years part time to reach a level 4 grade and a diploma in Therapeutic Counselling. Level 6 will be the equivalent degree program, plus there are masters courses and doctorates,etc.

My work in counselling MUST be supervised and I have regular contact with a trained supervisor that monitors my work with my clients and also peer group supervision so a group of counsellors can all discuss there work. All is very confidential and no clients interests are breeched.

With the hypnosis certification I have worked with 2 private organisations one was lengthy, had client contact with only friends and family and an exam. The other was an intensive weeks course over 5 days working with people in the group. I could do these courses until the day I die as there are so many to choose from. In fact I have been studying hypnosis since 2007 with courses, private reading and of course hands on experience.

With hypnosis i can have a supervisor if I choose and can chat to peer groups but it is not enforced and depends on your own agenda.

There are movements out there i.e. the UKCP (google the UKCP) who are working to sort all this out but ultimately it is a governmental decision.

I wish you the best of luck and if I can be of any further assistance please say.


Wayne

wfearn wrote:Hi Panorama,

If there is anything that would constitute a crime then the police is the first port of call.

It is unfortunate that these people are in this field; however they are in all fields including the political and law enforcement.

If there is an issue that you feel you want to recover costs then perhaps citizens advice and a small claims court is the best course of action and ALL therapists must have public liability insurance. But the problem is this industry is SELF-governing and even if they are affiliated to some group or organisation and they have these rights revoked there is NOTHING stopping them from continuing their work.

You have to shop around for the person that best suits your needs and has the correct qualifications to suit you, but please be aware there are NO qualifications in HYPNOSIS or HYPNOTHERAPY issued by any educational establishment only private organisation who present themselves as schools. Most have a very good structure and ethical stance but they cannot guarantee what their students do after.

I have counselling qualifications issued by AQA through a local college and then OTHER hypnosis certification.

With the counselling qualifications I sat nationally recognised exams, had to produce NVQ style evidence of my work and prove 50 hrs of voluntary contact which took me 3 years part time to reach a level 4 grade and a diploma in Therapeutic Counselling. Level 6 will be the equivalent degree program, plus there are masters courses and doctorates,etc.

My work in counselling MUST be supervised and I have regular contact with a trained supervisor that monitors my work with my clients and also peer group supervision so a group of counsellors can all discuss there work. All is very confidential and no clients interests are breeched.

With the hypnosis certification I have worked with 2 private organisations one was lengthy, had client contact with only friends and family and an exam. The other was an intensive weeks course over 5 days working with people in the group. I could do these courses until the day I die as there are so many to choose from. In fact I have been studying hypnosis since 2007 with courses, private reading and of course hands on experience.

With hypnosis i can have a supervisor if I choose and can chat to peer groups but it is not enforced and depends on your own agenda.

There are movements out there i.e. the UKCP (google the UKCP) who are working to sort all this out but ultimately it is a governmental decision.

I wish you the best of luck and if I can be of any further assistance please say.


Wayne

Hi wfearn,
Your post is really helpful to this discussion.. There are various important points mentioned in your post and cleared my doubts..

wfearn/wayne Thank you for your time and detailed response. I also echo some of what legacyinthemakingmagazine has said.

I am not sure that it is a police matter although I am confidently sure that it would be a matter for a governing body if the profession fell under such an umbrella, which it clearly doesn't, yet.

The UKCP website is very useful and it is true to say that this particular hypnosis
is not registered with them. Surprise, surprise.

The premises (home) transpires that it is rented accommodation as the hypnosis in question flits from one house to another around Essex/Hertforshire area. The landlord does not know he operates a business from the house, so insurances/liability insurance etc is also questionable.
Lots of things do not stack up with this one and my guesses are is that he is a fraud.

MABH is a member of the American Board of Hypnotherapists, MNLP is Master of Neurolinguistic Programming. The difference between a hypnotherapist and your doctor, lawyer or accountant is that the latter three are professions - you have to have a particular qualification to practise. Not the same for a hypnotherapist.

The guy I think you're referring to belongs to a number of bodies; you can look them up and see what the membership criteria are.

There's a plethora of training courses and associations. Many associations accredit certain courses, which sometimes turn out to be run by the association!

But rapport with the therapist is the most important factor for change, even above training, according to latest research...

Hope this is useful.

supersadie Thank you for your response. He is NOT a member of those associations upon extensive research, although, many years ago he was.

During my daughters session with him, he told her that he was a warlock and had these demon powers. From her recollection, he also told her about his activated dna and what the spirits would do to her if she did not re-attend.

I guess liking someone and passing money over to them, goes glove in hand.

These people with their Kellogg's Cornflakes Certificates should be stopped, or at least regulated properly.