The Black Pill

Trump was probably cheated of the presidency because he was investigating the use of hcq.

Did you actually write that Candid? More to the point, do you believe it? You forgot injecting bleach, but either way, they were not the reasons why he didn't get elected. Being a lying, swindler and a total narcissist didn't help. You think the covid conspiracy is making the world a more dangerous place, yet seem to think Trump would have made us safer.... jeez Candid. He let it rip through the country and people died.... this was before the kill shot was developed.

theforsaken wrote:Yeah she's had the jabs already, at first she was a bit reluctant but I think co workers pressured her into getting them, and now that they didn't kill her I guess she's in favour of them as well

I'm sorry to hear it. In this video https://www.bitchute.com/video/mPzukRBd9z5L/ Cliff High says "most of those people won't be around this time next year". I suppose time will tell.

A mix of peer pressure and seeing only the critically ill people every time she works made her kind of for it, if that makes sense.

It does and it doesn't. If she's been in critical care for a long time, the question is whether she saw what she expected to see before 2020. Being told "this is the covid ward" would warp anyone's perception.

I'm pretty sure they're making nurses and doctors get jabbed by October too or they're sacked.

That's what's being done elsewhere, particularly America. And while I admire those who resign over it, in terms of getting financial help from the Government it's better to make them fire you. People are then getting together with other staff fired for the same reason, and taking out class actions against employers.

I've brought up to her that the flu disappeard magically ever since covid started, and her retort to that is "that's because no one is going out anymore and everyone is in lockdown"

Yes, this is the kind of circular argument going on. I believe a worse one is coming in the northern hemisphere when cold weather sets in and the vaccine variant starts knocking more people off: the unjabbed will be blamed. That's already happening on a small scale, but I'm dreading winter for all the usual reasons plus this whopper.

I do love her so it's a shame she can't see through this like I can

It's more than a shame! I'm in a branch of The Freedom Network that meets weekly, and a handful of people there are agonising over partners in the other camp. These are people who've been married for decades and have grandchildren. Given what you've said in another thread here, I'd be thinking long and hard about the future. (Sorry. I'll say no more on that subject.)

I know the vaccines are dangerous, one has a chance to give you myocarditis, and the other has a chance to give you blood clots.

There's a long list of nasties linked to the jabs. The worst I've seen are bells palsy and limbs having to be amputated. It was clots that got my mother and the cousin I mentioned (both in Oz). They both had massive strokes.

The media makes out myocarditis isn't a big deal and is something that will just go away, but it actually kills like 66% of people who get it within 5 years.

You're preaching to the converted here! And you're right about the odds. According to the CDC, at 33 your chance of surviving covid is 99.98%. Even in the over-70s it's 94.6%.

For obvious reasons there's no data on surviving the jabs. They're 100% safe and effective doncha know—except clearly they're neither.

I could have even had covid already,

I had an unusual cold late January 2020 that kept me in bed for six days. My breathing kept cutting out as if my throat were closed. And yes it was scary, just not scary enough to stop me struggling outside when my nicotine level ran low.

I'd heard of "the virus" then but fortunately that didn't enter my head. Half the office staff were off at the same time. I've been smoking almost 50 years, so what could I expect?

All of these jab manufacturers [THEY ARE NOT VACCINES!!] are dodgy. Not only are they indemnified, but health insurers don't pay out on jab damage either. And even if they did, some of the "adverse drug reactions" are horrific, definitely a fate worse than death.

Anyway, what if you didn't take your phone when you go out? Would you simply be denied entry? I'm still shocked at how much worse matters are in Australia than in England, although I've no doubt there'll be nazis everywhere when we hit winter. Thing is, Australia's covid death rate is extremely low (compared to US or UK) at this stage. There's a tragic/hilarious video, I think it's on tiktok, of an Aussie talking about the miniscule mortality rate there. I know you'd love it so I've asked for a postable link.

They do this so they can figure out if you were there the same time as someone with covid so they can force you to self isolate and get the negative test result. It kind of is like a temporary passport.

Sounds more like wrongful imprisonment to me. There are whole teams of doctors, scientists and lawyers taking action on this all over the place in the hope of a new Nuremberg. Yes. it's that serious. That's why these pricks are panicking and trying to get everyone jabbed asap.

It's hard for me to understand why so many people all over the world actually think this is all okay, done for people's safety, They even believe we could all "get back to normal" if only selfish people like you in Oz, me in UK, quietvoice in US and Richard in Colombia would only do the right thing.

There's no chance now that life can return to what it was pre-2020. You remaining unjabbed is clearly much more difficult for you than it is for me. For now.

tokeless wrote:You think the covid conspiracy is making the world a more dangerous place,

You got that right

yet seem to think Trump would have made us safer....

but no points for mindreading.

Probably nothing could have made anyone any safer at that point, but Trump was at least looking for a cure. And yes, I chuckled over the bleach idea, too.

I don't spend a lot of time looking at American politics but you only had to look at the Trump rallies and the Biden rallies beforehand to see who was more popular.

And if you want a puppet, who better than a demented old man who forgets the script and can't walk up a small set of stairs without falling over three times?

Candid wrote:Trump was at least looking for a cure.

OPERATION WARP SPEED


The man is a clown. He is playing a role. He "won" no election. He was selected. They are all clowns. Get with the program. All governments are your enemy.

The Most Dangerous Superstition


Keep in mind, that if everything that a criminal does is criminal, then he is suspect immediately. But let him do some good things in order to be in the viewing public's good graces, and he can get away with murder.

Candid wrote:

tokeless wrote:You think the covid conspiracy is making the world a more dangerous place,

You got that right

yet seem to think Trump would have made us safer....

but no points for mindreading.

Probably nothing could have made anyone any safer at that point, but Trump was at least looking for a cure. And yes, I chuckled over the bleach idea, too.

I don't spend a lot of time looking at American politics but you only had to look at the Trump rallies and the Biden rallies beforehand to see who was more popular.

And if you want a puppet, who better than a demented old man who forgets the script and can't walk up a small set of stairs without falling over three times?

The irony is, Trump never wanted to win and was said to be gutted when he did. His aim was to make as much money as he could from the campaign and winning actually opened him up to scrutiny whereas coming second wouldn't "Nobody investigates the loser". This is what triggered the Russian issues and how he was trying to do deals with Putin... a true patriot eh? The crazy thing is, he will run again and will be the Republican choice because he's popular with the dumber Americans who think country first, right or wrong .... Hitler used a strategy that Trump adopted... make Germany great again, target a minority group for the blame and take democracy by whatever means.

We'll make a conspiracy theorist of you yet, tokeless.

tokeless wrote:he will run again and will be the Republican choice because he's popular with the dumber Americans who think country first, right or wrong

It's not like they have a lot of choice, is it!

theforsaken wrote:Voting is bs, the system is designed in a way that no matter who you actually vote for, you either vote labour, libs or greens. If everyone voted for One Nation or GAP, somehow either liberals or Labor would still win.

Liberals or Labor (Aust.)
Trump or Biden
Johnson or Starmer

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

Candid wrote:We'll make a conspiracy theorist of you yet, tokeless.

I've been one for many years Candid, but an important factor is deciding what has a basis and what is just internet dredging. Also, if someone can give me evidence I am wrong in my belief, I will change it. So far with covid, I've yet to see that. Anyway, I'll be dead in a year by the looks of the opinion on here..

tokeless wrote: Also, if someone can give me evidence I am wrong in my belief, I will change it. So far with covid, I've yet to see that.

You refuse to go where it is necessary to go in order to find this info. It is not on your TV. Where else do you expect to find it? People give you leads that you ignore. This is on you.

quietvoice wrote:

tokeless wrote: Also, if someone can give me evidence I am wrong in my belief, I will change it. So far with covid, I've yet to see that.

You refuse to go where it is necessary to go in order to find this info. It is not on your TV. Where else do you expect to find it? People give you leads that you ignore. This is on you.

No, I refuse to go where your paranoia points qv. I've checked some of your references and they don't mean or prove anything and are either conspiracy ABC ie the bad guys want us all dead or slaves or there's an alternative view within their 'facts'. Get your head out of the clouds. I don't need to read extremely tenuous information to formulate a logical opinion. Your beliefs will lead to a future world where there are no healthcare workers, no emergency services workers because they were all stupid enough to take a vaccine.. that's what you're saying. David Icke believes there are lizards living amongst us, controlling us etc... he can spout the evidence and provide links to educate us dickheads that don't believe it. You're no different to the zealots who shout at speakers corner in London about the end of the world.... it was supposed to be 2012 and yet here we are... still going on with life. I will bet you right now that I will still be here in another year, barring an accident or disease, but obviously that disease if it happens will be because of the vaccine, the kill shot. You are lost and cannot go back, trapped in a tube with no turnaround room because to do so, would show you were and are wrong.... see you next year.

tokeless wrote: a future world where there are no healthcare workers, no emergency services workers because they were all stupid enough to take a [vaccine].

[vaccine] = maim-and-kill shot





P.S. I don't give two shiites about Icke. Sift through that bs. The world is bigger than Icke.

tokeless wrote: healthcare

It's MEDICAL care, not HEALTH care.

Allopathy knows nothing about health. So, right off the bat, the industry is mis-named. How wrong can it go from there?

Cliff High says "most of those people won't be around this time next year". I suppose time will tell

Candid.. Clif High is a modern day Nostradamus and likely a charlatan. He predicts doom and gloom because as the saying goes, bad news travels faster.
How come his prediction of devastation didn't happen in 2008, or the end of the world in 2012...he then changed it and said I didn't mean literally the end. I'm surprised you would swallow this nonsense as you've always come across as someone who speaks sense. I would recommend a video for you called Hypernormalisation. It discusses the problems with overkill of information and how the desire is to create confusion, so people question, what is the truth... it touches on the fake news agenda so we never fully believe anything because there's an alternative too... remember it's not a lie, but an alternative fact?

quietvoice wrote:https://principia-scientific.com/ultimate-proof-covid-19-was-planned-to-create-new-world-order/

Oh God, that's been circulating for a while now. Here's a prediction... there will be another war between the west and the bad guys in the future. How do I know? Because the west always has a war at some point in time and there will always be a bad guy, imagined, real or created as a reason to attack them.

The fact Gates said there is a pandemic on it's way in the next decade is probably modelling. Also, it contradicts the notion of 2019 as it was the year after his statement that it happened. Surely, if he was the mastermind behind it he would wait a little longer for the "I told you so" moment.
Why do people believe in God qv? There's no evidence for it, yet millions and millions do, some devoutly, some to the point of dangerously.... it's based on fear of there being nothing other than life, then death, then nothing. But, there has to be a reason we exist, it can't just be like other animals because we're humans.... so, religion was created as a means of understanding why we exist and that it has meaning. No evidence at all other than stories, called scriptures and a big book of them, available in many forms and languages.... yet, when challenged they defend it aggressively.... if I found absolute proof that it was all made up and there was no God, people wouldn't thank me, they would try and kill me, accuse me of being the devil in human form... because they can't accept it was a lie. Their entire existence is based on it being true. Why is what you believe fact, yet Icke is crazy? When I've listened to him, he's very plausible and not shouting we're all gonna be slaves to lizards... he sounds logical, reasoned and can provide back up and 'facts' to support what he is saying..just like you and me.... doesn't that tell you something qv? What is reality? Is it a construct, like time? It was created to give understanding to what is a continuum. There are no minutes and hours other than what we created. There are no facts other than what we choose to believe. With regards to medicine.... when you entered this world, it was medicine that cared for you, vaccinated you against dangerous illness and made you better when you were poorly. Now, as an adult you deny it is real???

tokeless wrote: With regards to medicine.... when you entered this world, it was medicine that cared for you, vaccinated you against dangerous illness and made you better when you were poorly.

Medicine cared for me when I was an infant? What utter nonsense.



P.S. The world is STILL bigger than Icke, even if he does has a lot of plausible things to say. (He is controlled opposition.)