davidbanner99@ wrote: So many people I meet who tell me they have Asperger's don't strike me as manifesting that pathology. Similar conditions could be neurotic personality, encephalitis or Schizothymia. Many doctors stuck with the view Kanner Autism is likewise different to Asperger Disorder.
I get it. There's a diagnosis for everyone on an unbroken continuum. Planet Earth is just one big revolving loony bin.
The essence of Asperger's Pathology is broken contact with other human beings in the emotional, sensory and instinctive levels.
My husband to the life! It was the Rain Man qualities that drew me to him in the first place. That's because I myself have Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder which for some reason leads me to consort with aliens. I go cross-eyed and crazy with "normal" conversation.
Husband has intermittent deafness. He had to learn attending behaviours and can mimic them for just so long before he comes out with a completely inappropriate reply. Emotion is running especially high chez nous this week because my mother was euthanased on the other side of the world on Monday, and today I'm attending the funeral of a dear old man, very much loved by all in our village. Meanwhile one of husband's remote relatives has come to town from Up North (carrying god knows what with her) so he's busy discussing genealogy, contacting other relatives, and ferrying her around. In all our years of married life I don't think we've ever been so individually preoccupied.
The only way this type of individual can progress is through intellectual awareness. You have to explain the problem whatever it is. For example, it took me years to finally realise my emotional intelligence and empathy mechanisms were semi-functional.
Thanks for saying that. It shows your (and my husband's) side of the story very clearly. This
https://www.theneurotypical.com/index.html shows mine. It's unbelievably painful and very often rage-provoking—but then my own pathology sets me up for mood lability anyway.
I had no idea why I never fitted in.
My husband is the same. I'd love to introduce you two to each other and see what happens.
When He and I got together, my closest woman friend said it was like there were two misfits who could only be with each other, presumably because no one else would put up with either of us. My friend also did her best, on the day of our wedding, to talk me out of it.
Diagnosing hubby needs to involve school and family history, obsessions, focus on routine, empathy, motor impairment, meltdowns, mimicry and degree of social capability.
I have known people with different types of autism pathologies.
School: extremely disruptive in class, told after every maths exam that he needed to show his working-out, which of course had been some instantaneous thing for him. Very much self-taught, with what looks to me like an encyclopaedic knowledge of history, geography, astronomy... Extraordinary organisational ability, seeing immediately how complex situations can best be resolved.
Family: Chiefly a bunch of average neurotypicals, but recent developments have unearthed two cousins, male twins, who were born out of wedlock and fostered together. That's who the relative from Up North has come to visit; she's their younger and of course legitimate sister. We met one of the twins yesterday, the one who restores antique clocks and classic cars. I found him much more interesting than her. He's clearly doing better than any of us but I think he was bored, and he left first.
Obsessions: Okay, I just asked him: If you had to name your three chief interests, what would they be? His answer surprised me.
1) Spirituality. He has a whole shelf of chiefly Eastern mysticism books, and he's not a reader at all. It's I who occasionally pick up a book from there, and usually put it back soon afterwards, There's an expensive three-volume set of the Bhagavad Gita he said he hoped
I would read. No thanks!
But I can see ethics informing his
life, what he actually
does. He's the most caring person I know. He takes responsibility for his mother, his disabled cousin—and me, doing all our shopping, organising our appointments and taking us to them. (The effect of this has been to make me fat and lazy.) When I fall apart (very often because he's provoked me) he's right there.
2) Digital assets in the context of the WEF and the Deep State. Whatever that means.
3) History and current events. He said he's less interest now in politics, and I said: "Because all governments are now doing the same thing?" and he said yes. He then went into one of his long speeches, looking towards the window while I sat eating my breakfast and thinking of other things. Once I'd finished I said: Okay, you've gone into a rant; and he apologised.
He often says no one at all understands him. I feel the same way.
Focus on routine: Yes. The same basic routine has been in place ever since I've known him. Obviously it can be adapted, as long as he's in charge. He has a handful of recipes he's lived on for years. Lunch is at 1pm. Fish and chips with his mother every second Saturday. He doesn't like eating out (I do) but if we're going to eat out he has a preference for low-budget junk food. If we're eating out with other people and the venue was out of his hands, he finds the restaurant's online menu to decide what he's going to have, and used to want me to do the same. Now he knows better.
Our best compromise is Italian restaurants where he will always have their vegetarian pizza and I'll look at the menu when we get there.
empathy: He assures me he feels the whole world's pain as well as when there's a specific issue with someone he actually knows. It's just that he hasn't a clue what to say (and often blurts out something that makes people feel worse) nor does he know how to arrange his face. I have to believe he really does care but I'm missing conversation with women friends or empathic males.
motor impairment: I frequently call him a robot, but I break things more often than he does. He did break our TV a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember what he was trying to do at the time, but within a couple of hours he was doing set-up on a new TV and had unmanifested the broken one.
meltdowns: not as frequent as they used to be. I think that's my influence, aka nagging, vicious verbal denunciations, and leaving the room. That takes it out of me, as well. He had a tantrum in a post office when he couldn't understand what the masked teller was saying. (Mask mandates have been tough on deaf people.) I was forced to step in, and people were muttering horrible things about him as we made a hasty exit.
mimicry and degree of social capability: yes, I can see attempts to mimic appropriate behaviours, but again, there's a robotic and uncertain way about it. The day we married he produced four "mates" from his schooldays. 1) I'd met once or twice before. Husband visits him every Friday evening without fail, returning in the wee hours. Both men have tried to create a friendship between me and the other guy's girlfriend. Our goings-out as a foursome usually end in disaster. 2) makes an appearance when he's short of cash. He's a sweet guy but we haven't seen him since we became the nouveau poor ourselves. 3) what an backside. I've met him only twice and in his mid-50s he still thinks he's God's gift to women. I
do like his on-again off-again girlfriend and recently had a delightful one-on-one with her, but that's off-topic. 4) not seen by me since our wedding nearly 16 years ago. On the surface he's a normal family man, but before the coronahoax started up he regularly played Saturday nights with a band at a particular local venue. Husband used to go along "to catch up with my friends". I went once at my own insistence long ago. After that I wasn't invited, nor did I want to go.
Very long post, but I'm interested to read any response you can make.