quietvoice wrote:davidbanner99@ wrote:My message to Q.V. . . . Don't have the vaccine. Ditch the phoney sites. Live life to the full and get some fresh air.
Which sites from those which I provided here were phony?
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by quietvoice » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:31 pm
quietvoice wrote:Which sites from those which I provided here were phony?
Ooh, ooh, I've got one!
Recently bbc.co.uk was mentioned, and I used it in a reply. Now there's a phony site for you!
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by tokeless » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:42 pm
I suspect most of the current bickering is like a last shoot-out before closure. Final chance to air views.
I can see why you would think that, but it's not for me, hence blocking the troll. There was no other way if I wanted to keep posting as she just had to question everything, deny reality and it just got boring to me. Too much wasted energy. I mean I might need it if I'm to survive eh?
I can see why you would think that, but it's not for me, hence blocking the troll. There was no other way if I wanted to keep posting as she just had to question everything, deny reality and it just got boring to me. Too much wasted energy. I mean I might need it if I'm to survive eh?
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by quietvoice » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:56 pm
tokeless wrote:as she just had to question everything, deny reality and it just got boring to me.
Imagine that, I was just thinking the name of the cult that I belong to is the Question Everything Cult. Wonders don't cease, or maybe it's just coincidence.
You question nothing. Whatever another man in "authority" tells you, you act as if that is God's Word, "Do Not Question Me, EVER!"
A person with a sane mind would make TRUTH their authority. Questioning what another man presents to me with his words and deeds is pursuing TRUTH.
You lose a lot by not reading my posts.
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by quietvoice » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:12 pm
tokeless wrote:See what I mean...
I thought you were blocking me. Or at least ignoring me. What's going on, are you having a change of heart?
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by quietvoice » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:29 pm
quietvoice wrote:tokeless wrote:as she just had to question everything, deny reality and it just got boring to me.
Imagine that, I was just thinking the name of the cult that I belong to is the Question Everything Cult. Wonders don't cease, or maybe it's just coincidence.
You question nothing. Whatever another man in "authority" tells you, you act as if that is God's Word, "Do Not Question Me, EVER!"
A person with a sane mind would make TRUTH their authority. Questioning what another man presents to me with his words and deeds is pursuing TRUTH.
It's called checking one's premises. Proper conclusions about anything cannot be made based upon faulty premises.
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:14 pm
tokeless wrote:I suspect most of the current bickering is like a last shoot-out before closure. Final chance to air views.
I can see why you would think that, but it's not for me, hence blocking the troll. There was no other way if I wanted to keep posting as she just had to question everything, deny reality and it just got boring to me. Too much wasted energy. I mean I might need it if I'm to survive eh?
I don't really see much point to it. QuietVoice holds particular views at this time and is hardly going to alter. QuietVoice is one of multitudes of people who unknowingly buy into American conspiracy culture. Not that she's doing any harm. It's a free forum (till it closes). I have to giggle I suppose at the chosen name of "Quiet Voice" which suggests an assumed minority status of those inner-circle- people, (more enlightened than the dullards) who believe NASA faked the Apollo missions. There are millions of quiet voices - all conclude they alone "outed" the secret UFO bunkers, exposed the alien footage of autopsies, rooted out NWO plots and millenium bugs. What I discovered, however, is that when you dig deep to the source of conspiracies, there are American hustlers. Always a doctor such and such from whatever state. When you delve into the revenue, you discover a lucrative income, web venture and lecture tour circuit. So, the quiet voices become victims of manipulation and deceit. If I opted to become a conman, I'm sure I could defraud people in the same way as the Ickes and Todds of the world. However, it goes against my grain. I suppose, though, there's a book in the making, although I'd be careful to remain against these vaccines - on other, safety grounds.
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:30 pm
I have a dvd that features one "abductee". Don't get me wrong. Some UFO encounters are credible and we should be open minded. This guy, however, was incredible. He shows some tiny scars on his arms and tells the interviewer that the "greys" leave such marks on the abductees. "They take you and slam you on a table like a piece of meat!" he says. By the way, I get these same marks myself. Some kind of a skin rash or possibly bug bites. And here's the kicker: The abductee sleeps with his home-made greys dolls, which he moulded and painted. He "connects" with other abductees online and presumably generates an income.
Now, if you were being abducted by aliens on a regular basis, would you casually make a turnover from it? If it were me I'd at least sleep with a firearm or hoop of garlic. All Americans of course. Crazy isn't it?
Now, if you were being abducted by aliens on a regular basis, would you casually make a turnover from it? If it were me I'd at least sleep with a firearm or hoop of garlic. All Americans of course. Crazy isn't it?
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by quietvoice » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:33 pm
davidbanner99@ wrote:I don't really see much point to it. QuietVoice holds particular views at this time and is hardly going to alter. QuietVoice is one of multitudes of people who unknowingly buy into American conspiracy culture. Not that she's doing any harm. It's a free forum (till it closes). I have to giggle I suppose at the chosen name of "Quiet Voice" which suggests an assumed minority status of those inner-circle- people, (more enlightened than the dullards) who believe NASA faked the Apollo missions. There are millions of quiet voices - all conclude they alone "outed" the secret UFO bunkers, exposed the alien footage of autopsies, rooted out NWO plots and millenium bugs. What I discovered, however, is that when you dig deep to the source of conspiracies, there are American hustlers. Always a doctor such and such from whatever state. When you delve into the revenue, you discover a lucrative income, web venture and lecture tour circuit. So, the quiet voices become victims of manipulation and deceit. If I opted to become a conman, I'm sure I could defraud people in the same way as the Ickes and Todds of the world. However, it goes against my grain. I suppose, though, there's a book in the making, although I'd be careful to remain against these vaccines - on other, safety grounds.
The Grand Conjecturer strikes again!
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by tokeless » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:47 pm
davidbanner99@ wrote:I have a dvd that features one "abductee". Don't get me wrong. Some UFO encounters are credible and we should be open minded. This guy, however, was incredible. He shows some tiny scars on his arms and tells the interviewer that the "greys" leave such marks on the abductees. "They take you and slam you on a table like a piece of meat!" he says. By the way, I get these same marks myself. Some kind of a skin rash or possibly bug bites. And here's the kicker: The abductee sleeps with his home-made greys dolls, which he moulded and painted. He "connects" with other abductees online and presumably generates an income.
Now, if you were being abducted by aliens on a regular basis, would you casually make a turnover from it? If it were me I'd at least sleep with a firearm or hoop of garlic. All Americans of course. Crazy isn't it?
As the saying goes.... Only in America. One born every minute.
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:52 pm
The one American con-artist who genuinely fooled me years ago was Whitney Streiber. His line wasn't a NWO vaccine takeover plot but abductions. I read the book Communion and was taken in. Found some comments:
"He wasn’t even able to decide whether or not he was actually on campus during the Charles Whitman shootings. And apparently he first submitted the book to a few publishers as a science fiction before rebranding it as a true story. Each book thereafter became even more outrageous, ending up with him co-writing books with his dead wife through some kind of post-death telepathy."
The Covid agenda is just another agenda to hijack. Tell the faithful it's a NWO power grab by a bunch of zionists and freemasons. Present "evidence" (similar to a hurled trashcan lid i.e. spotted UFO). Then, fill up those lecture tour circuits and bank the dollars.
"He wasn’t even able to decide whether or not he was actually on campus during the Charles Whitman shootings. And apparently he first submitted the book to a few publishers as a science fiction before rebranding it as a true story. Each book thereafter became even more outrageous, ending up with him co-writing books with his dead wife through some kind of post-death telepathy."
The Covid agenda is just another agenda to hijack. Tell the faithful it's a NWO power grab by a bunch of zionists and freemasons. Present "evidence" (similar to a hurled trashcan lid i.e. spotted UFO). Then, fill up those lecture tour circuits and bank the dollars.
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:14 pm
Found this on Wordpress. You can safely apply the same rule to the dozens of American, conspiracy leaders:
"In the face of this and later debacles, such as the one surrounding his book The Key, it seems impossible to avoid one of three conclusions about Whitley Strieber:
Strieber is a self-admitted liar, who tells outlandish stories to people for reasons he doesn’t really unpack and may not be able to enunciate. In which case, none of his evidence can be taken at face value without corroboration independent of Strieber.
Strieber has severe memory issues and genuinely can’t tell the difference between a story he’s made up and a real thing that happened to him, and as a result if he tells himself a story often enough he’ll start believing it’s true. In which case, again, he’s a deeply unreliable witness and without independent verification nothing he says can be trusted.
Strieber is consciously and deliberately bullshitting for profit and attention, continuing a habit stretching back to childhood. In which case if he says the Sun’s rising in the East you should still go to the window to check.
In short, with Strieber as with so many other things in life, we should apply the Littlefinger Rule: if someone specifically tells you that they cannot be trusted, take them at their word and don’t trust them. "
"In the face of this and later debacles, such as the one surrounding his book The Key, it seems impossible to avoid one of three conclusions about Whitley Strieber:
Strieber is a self-admitted liar, who tells outlandish stories to people for reasons he doesn’t really unpack and may not be able to enunciate. In which case, none of his evidence can be taken at face value without corroboration independent of Strieber.
Strieber has severe memory issues and genuinely can’t tell the difference between a story he’s made up and a real thing that happened to him, and as a result if he tells himself a story often enough he’ll start believing it’s true. In which case, again, he’s a deeply unreliable witness and without independent verification nothing he says can be trusted.
Strieber is consciously and deliberately bullshitting for profit and attention, continuing a habit stretching back to childhood. In which case if he says the Sun’s rising in the East you should still go to the window to check.
In short, with Strieber as with so many other things in life, we should apply the Littlefinger Rule: if someone specifically tells you that they cannot be trusted, take them at their word and don’t trust them. "
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:23 pm
Icke is a leading virus conspiracy cult leader. Please read:
"Icke was laughed out of the public eye in the early '90s when he started wearing only turquoise and explaining that voices had sent him on an important mission to save the earth.
Decades later, Icke has written books, has fans in 47 countries and can gather a crowd of 2,500 people in a city simply by posting a date for a lecture on his Web site.
The cornerstone of Icke's theories is that a malicious race of lizard people -- the "shadowy elite" -- rules the world and all its political leaders primarily by controlling the media and orchestrating fear-mongering catastrophes, such as Sept. 11. Icke said he already has speeches lined up for 2009 in Los Angeles, Mexico, Croatia, New Zealand and Australia.
"I knew about the mainstream media, and that the mainstream media has a stunning level of myopia so that only that which is in the mainstream will be presented," said Icke. "What the Internet has done [is that it] has allowed information to flow outside of the myopia. ... The Internet has been absolutely essential."
(Note - do we classify this popularist hype as "information????" )
The Internet has always been a forum for fringe ideas, but success like Icke's, and subcultures built on paranoid theories like gang stalkers, points to an understudied corner in psychiatry: Who are the people who believe such theories in the quiet of their homes, and what does such behavior mean for a person teetering on the edge of mental illness?
"It's not an area that has been studied very well," said Angus MacDonald, a spokesperson for the mental health charity NARSAD, and an associate professor of psychology at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.
Does Conspiracy Always Equal Delusion?
MacDonald cautioned that not everyone who believes in a conspiracy plot is mentally ill. They just may be suggestible or just suspicious of authority.
For the healthy in mind, MacDonald said, "it's a wild card about whether this is going to improve people's state or not. It may turn out that the value of the community is greater than the destructive nature of the narratives that are spun out of them.
"But on the same point, this is a domain that didn't need more wild cards," he added.
Whether or not conspiracy theories harm people who are susceptible to mental illness is a matter of debate among psychiatrists., "
"Icke was laughed out of the public eye in the early '90s when he started wearing only turquoise and explaining that voices had sent him on an important mission to save the earth.
Decades later, Icke has written books, has fans in 47 countries and can gather a crowd of 2,500 people in a city simply by posting a date for a lecture on his Web site.
The cornerstone of Icke's theories is that a malicious race of lizard people -- the "shadowy elite" -- rules the world and all its political leaders primarily by controlling the media and orchestrating fear-mongering catastrophes, such as Sept. 11. Icke said he already has speeches lined up for 2009 in Los Angeles, Mexico, Croatia, New Zealand and Australia.
"I knew about the mainstream media, and that the mainstream media has a stunning level of myopia so that only that which is in the mainstream will be presented," said Icke. "What the Internet has done [is that it] has allowed information to flow outside of the myopia. ... The Internet has been absolutely essential."
(Note - do we classify this popularist hype as "information????" )
The Internet has always been a forum for fringe ideas, but success like Icke's, and subcultures built on paranoid theories like gang stalkers, points to an understudied corner in psychiatry: Who are the people who believe such theories in the quiet of their homes, and what does such behavior mean for a person teetering on the edge of mental illness?
"It's not an area that has been studied very well," said Angus MacDonald, a spokesperson for the mental health charity NARSAD, and an associate professor of psychology at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.
Does Conspiracy Always Equal Delusion?
MacDonald cautioned that not everyone who believes in a conspiracy plot is mentally ill. They just may be suggestible or just suspicious of authority.
For the healthy in mind, MacDonald said, "it's a wild card about whether this is going to improve people's state or not. It may turn out that the value of the community is greater than the destructive nature of the narratives that are spun out of them.
"But on the same point, this is a domain that didn't need more wild cards," he added.
Whether or not conspiracy theories harm people who are susceptible to mental illness is a matter of debate among psychiatrists., "
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by davidbanner99@ » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:31 pm
Here's what's insane:
I know a few very learned academics who write ancient history papers for peanuts. These people read real books over many years.
The Ickes and Streibers relate stories of a!ien abductions and secret lizards. People buy it all totally. The internet has somehow wrecked the whole base of science.
Crazy isn't it?
I know a few very learned academics who write ancient history papers for peanuts. These people read real books over many years.
The Ickes and Streibers relate stories of a!ien abductions and secret lizards. People buy it all totally. The internet has somehow wrecked the whole base of science.
Crazy isn't it?
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