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Oh my days. I'm not sure I've got time for this...I can't believe you two are serious....TTFN

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote:

Theorease wrote:Just because it's not a choice to make things better or worse doesn't mean my brain doesn't make me feel empathetic and direct me to attempt to increase pleasure and decrease pain...

A determinist in our midst?

Damn straight.

Just because it's not a choice to make things better or worse doesn't mean my brain doesn't make me feel empathetic and direct me to attempt to increase pleasure and decrease pain... How do champions become champions, and not wallow in the non-championhood of the majority of people? A lot of champi...

Just because it's not a choice to make things better or worse doesn't mean my brain doesn't make me feel empathetic and direct me to attempt to increase pleasure and decrease pain...

quietvoice wrote:Then you lack the proper knowledge to even continue this conversation.

Enjoy being buffeted by the winds of life.

Well; I worked out we haven't got free will at the age of 9 or 10 and nothing I've learnt since has changed that. Some people just can't think clearly I guess. And I do/will.

quietvoice wrote:

Theorease wrote:Everybody always does what their brain tells them - sometimes the brain gives bad directions.

Do you have consciousness?

I am nothing but a powerless spark of perceptual consciousness. I mean I could claim be my body/brain too but I didn't form it so pfffffff; how can one take ownership...

Everybody always does what their brain tells them - sometimes the brain gives bad directions.

quietvoice wrote:

Theorease wrote:My brain (formed entirely by forces out of my control) and sensory inputs direct me to behave in that way.

I think you're a shill.

Well; I'm not - and what possible organisation you think I could be in cahoots with is beyond me.

Why should I not offer advice? The offering and taking of advice presupposes a voluntary action either in the direction of the advice, or not. Er, no, it doesn't. How does that happen without thought that can go one way or another, at one's volition? We only take advice if we think it is wise/accur...

My brain (formed entirely by forces out of my control) and sensory inputs direct me to behave in that way.

Nonsense. The information we receive/assimilate influences our thoughts and actions. Why should I not offer advice? I'm calm and relatively happy, with a mightily thick skin...

The free will that we have is where we "will" our attention. Where we place our focus, what thoughts we pay attention to or don't pay attention to, that is where our freedom lies. Nope. Are you saying that you had no choice in joining this forum and making 17 comments in the 12 threads yo...

I feel like I drove him to suicide... I feel such guilt... he did work hard, he did give us everything, and right up til his death I knew he loved me, but now I'm not so sure... my daughter is broken, she doesn't know the truth only that he's gone, she's struggling but she has counselling which hel...

Ever been in a holding cell? Sensory deprivation there....where nothing tickles you....once one becomes totally desensitised to all sensory input through over-exposure it would be very much like being in a holding cell....then again we're talking about eternity here; so it would be even worse than a...

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